Newsletter
Dedicated to Austrian-Hungarian Burgenland Family History
THE BURGENLAND BUNCH NEWS - No. 174
April 30, 2008, (c) 2008 G. J. Berghold - all rights reserved
Our 13th Year - Issued monthly as email by G. J. Berghold, BB Editor
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Current Status Of The BB: Members: 1612; Surname Entries: 5326; Query Board Entries: 3919;
Newsletters Archived: 174; Staff Members: 15
This first section of our 2 section newsletter concerns:
1. Burgenland Ethnic Links?
2. Size of Burgenland Family Data Base?
3. Krobotek Records
4. Burgenland Immigrant Obituaries
5. Körmend, Vas Megye, Hungary
6. Village Of Krobotek (District of Jennersdorf)
1. BURGENLAND ETHNIC LINKS
A recent question from Membership editor Hannes Graf asks "How many people of Burgenland ethnic
origin can be found in the US and Canada?" Specifically, how many are active in some sort
of ethnic club or enterprise? This of course begs the question, how does one look for them?
Prior to forming the Burgenland Bunch, I did a lot of research looking for Burgenland
information. What I found requires peeling many layers of ethnicity. One starts with the words:
Germanic (often Teutonic), then Austrian, then Royal Hungary, then finally Burgenland (after
1921). One can also search Hungary, Austro/Hungarian, Vas, Sopron, Moson Megye and western
Hungary (Transdanubia).
Ethnicity of American or Canadian Clubs follow a similar pattern. People of Burgenland origin
(immigrants or descendants) will be found in German or Hungarian Clubs as well as Austrian and
even some Slavic (Croatian). There are very few, if any, "pure" Burgenland organizations other
than the Burgenlandische Gemeinschaft or the Burgenland Bunch. Even within these
organizations you will find people mainly interested in Hungarian or Croatian family history.
BB staff member Anna Kresh supports this diversity with the following:
Anna writes: It would be extremely difficult to calculate how many (Burgenlanders)
there are in the Pittsburgh area. They are not organized that way. When we moved here, I tried
for more than 25 years to find a Burgenland-related organization because I was homesick for the
Lehigh Valley Burgenland community and all its traditional activities. Then I found the Austrian
American Cultural Society. Surprisingly the older, most active members are actually Burgenland
emigres or descendants, so there must be a lot here -- we just don't know about them. There is a
sizeable "German" population here in the Troy Hill area and a very popular, and very active,
Teutonia Maennerchor with an associated Damenchor. Everyone refers to them as The German Club.
It seems the club never wants for new membership, for there is something going on all the time
and you can go there almost every day for German food. Many Austrians belong because there is no
specifically Austrian club in the area.
When I was interviewed by our local Butler, PA, newspaper about my genealogy work, three ladies
called me because of the mention of Burgenland in the article. They, or their husbands, were
born in Burgenland. So they are here - they are just hidden. Probably BG membership is the best
indicator of Burgenland heritage here.
ED. continuation: In Wilmington, Delaware, we were members of the
Austrian/American Club along with Germans, Austrians, Hungarians and Croatians. I might also
mention that in a "purely" Burgenland organization, you might also find that it may be fractured
even further into northern, middle or southern Burgenland or even be district or village
specific.
2. SIZE OF BURGENLAND FAMILY DATABASE?
A recent question concerned the number of possible people in the US or Canada with Burgenland
origins. While no "official" number is available, we can (1) ask ourselves how many are members
of Burgenland organizations and then (2) try to do some sort of statistical guestimate.
The first is easy, we just add our 1600+ and the BG members and maybe those who have posted
queries to our query board - total less than 7000?
The second involves some mental gymnastics. We know we had 40,000 Burgenland immigrants
1880-1924 with about a 25% return or a net of 30,000. To that we can add about 2000 before 1880
and maybe as many as 15,000 after 1924. A guestimate of 47,000-50,000 immigrants to date.
Assuming 25 years per generation, a family birth rate of 2, and an average actuarial life span
of no more than 75 years, we have geometric totals of:
1880?-1924 - 32,000 had maybe 64,000 children who in turn had 2 each etc., we have:
From earlier migration:
1924 - 64,000 (none still living) who had
1949 - 128,000 (all still living?) who had
1974 - 256.000 (all still living?) who had
1999 - 512,000 (all still living?)
Total possible living descendants from first migration 896,000.
From later migration (1924 forward) we had 15,000 less 25% return equals 11,250 who had 2
children each or 22,500
1949 - 45,000 (half still living?) who had
1974 - 90,000 (all still living?) who had
1999 - 180,000 (all still living)
Total possible living descendants from second migration 292,500.
Total to date: 896,000 + 292,500 = 1,188,500 or 1.2 million (rounded) descendants with a
possible link to the Burgenland. Given 5,000 BB and BG members, about .4%, so we have lots of
people still to contact!
You can adjust these estimates by increasing or decreasing families and many immigrants married
other immigrants (which would remove one immigrant per marriage from the family estimates, etc.)
but I'd estimate that we are still talking about ONE MILLION POSSIBLE BURGENLAND PEOPLE INVOLVED
WITH THE US AND CANADIAN POPULATION. Of course, many descendants today may not realize that,
giving our work major importance in linking today's populations with the Heimat.
That 40,000 immigrant estimate and the 25% return rate are solid figures from emigration
studies. The rest is just conjecture.
3. KROBETEK RECORDS
- from Tom Steichen & Ed Malesky
Select Krobotek Birth, Marriage and Death Records
During Fall 2007, BB member Ed Malesky worked with LDS films of the church records for Krobotek
(Hungarian: Horvatfalu; Croatian: Hrvatski Kut) to research his mother's Ehritz family. He
eventually digitally photographed "virtually every page from 1825 to 1890 with an Ehritz on it
(about 900 photos). I then extracted all the Ehritz information. There were about 260 birth
records, 53 marriage records and 103 death records."
He recently shared his work with the BB and we have added the extracted information to the BB
web pages. The data can be found via a link near the bottom of the home page that is titled
"Select Krobotek Church Records: BB Member Ed Malesky's extracts of 260 birth records, 53
marriage records and 103 death records." A direct link to the master page is:
http://www.the-burgenland-bunch.org/ChurchRecords/Krobotek/KrobotekRecords.htm.
The digital photographs will also be made available to interested researchers after we determine
a method for distribution.
4. BURGENLAND IMMIGRANT OBITUARIES
- courtesy Bob Strauch
Mary Remsing, 87, of Nazareth, formerly of Bath, died March 28, 2008 in St. Lukes
Hospital, Fountain Hill. She was the wife of Joseph Remsing, who died January 5, 1993. Mary was
born Jan. 31, 1921 in Moschendorf, Burgenland, Austria, daughter of the late Ignatz and Mary
(Laky) Gaspar Deutsch.
Felix S. Schuch, 99, of Nazareth, died April 5, 2008, in Eastwood Nursing Center,
Wilson. He was the husband of the late Mary (Domitrovits) Schuch, who died on June 29, 1998.
Felix was born on Oct. 23, 1908, in Grossbachselten, Burgenland, Austria, a son of the late Paul
Schuch and Maria (Groller) Schuch Paukovits, and a stepson of the late John Paukovits.
Emil C. Simitz, 91, of Coplay, died April 18 in Lehigh Valley Hospital
-Muhlenberg, Bethlehem. He was married to Gisela (Schanta) Simitz for 66 years. Born in
Jakobshof, Hungary, he was the son of the late Franz and Maria (Stanko) Simitz.
Edward R. Novogratz died at his home in Northampton April 9, 2008, age 76. Born in
Northampton to Frank and Stella (Yaksitz) Novogratz, Ed's father came from St. Kathrein. Stella
was born in Allentown and raised in Kroatisch Tschantschendorf. Her parents were Andreas Jaksits
from Eisenhüttl and Anna (Jandrisevits) from Kroatisch Tschantschendorf.
Hermine "Minnie" Keglovitz, 80, of Nazareth died Tuesday, April 22, 2008. She was
the daughter of the late Rudolf and Sabina (Wiener) Schrantz. She was born November 5, 1927, in
Stockertown, grew up in Luising, Burgenland, Austria and returned to the United States in 1946.
She was the wife of the late Frank J. Keglovitz who died March 21, 1985.
5. KÖRMEND, VAS MEGYE, HUNGARY
Körmend was an important city for Burgenland inhabitants. It was an important market town and
one of the seats of the Batthyany family. It was on the road connecting Graz with Budapest. It
is still an important Hungarian city and the area contributed many immigrants to the Americas.
Correspondent writes:
Hello, I am new to the Burgenland list. My ancestors are from the town of Kormend in present day
Hungary. I would like to research the town of Kormend and find out more about its history. When
I google Kormend I see references to Burgenland. Official Hungarian web sites on the town make
no reference to Burgenland. Can anyone help me to figure out when Kormend was a part of
Burgenland and for how long? Do people in Kormend identify as Burgenlanders or as Hungarians?
Did the population of Kormend consist mostly of immigrants from Burgenland?
Reply: Kormend, Hungary (pop. 12,500) and a good portion of today's Burgenland
were part of the Hungarian Megye (county) of Vas. In 1921, much of the counties of Vas, Sopron
and Moson (all in Western Hungary), but not Kormend, were given to Austria (Treaty of Trianon)
as a result of the dismemberment of the Austro/Hungarian Empire. Kormend, therefore, is not part
of Burgenland - first named as a Province of Austria in 1921. Thus people from there were and
are Hungarians, although there was also a German-speaking minority, ethnically cleansed to
Austria and Germany after WW-II.
Most of the population has Hungarian (Magyar) origin but there were German and Croatian speaking
settlers over the centuries. Religion is mostly RC with some Lutheran and Reformed (Calvinist).
Kormend is a little too far east to be included in the Burgenland Bunch research but see our
website for possibly more data: www.the-burgenland-bunch.org.
Kormend remained in Hungary and is one of the larger cities of today's Hungarian Vas Megye. It
is at the junction of many major roads (e.g, Rt 8). It is along the Raba River and was first
mentioned in the year 1238. Royal charter was granted by Hungarian King Bela IV in 1244. Three
other villages were added to it in the last century. Your immigrant ancestor may have also come
from one of them - they were Also-berkifalu, Felso-berkifalu and Horvat-natalja. Aristocratic
family and owners of the domain prior to WW-I were the Batthyany - their palace is now a
national monument.
Correspondent writes further: I'm trying to figure out where my SCHREINER
ancestors may possibly have come prior to showing up in the Kormend 1796 census. SCHREINER seems
like Germanic names, so I thought maybe they could have come from Burgenland, since it's now in
Austria. But since it used to be part of Hungary and much of the population was ethnic
Hungarian, I might have to look elsewhere.
Reply: Yes - Schreiner is definitely Germanic (means "cabinet maker" from the
Latin "scrinarius"). There is a shortened form as well - "Schrein". After the second siege of
Vienna (1683), most of western Hungary was depopulated by the Turkish forces (killed, taken as
slaves, etc. famine and plague). Many villages were empty of people so the Crown, as well as
aristocratic families, put out a call for settlers. They offered all sorts of inducements, no
military service for a while, tax breaks, even money, etc. Most of the settlers then came from
western Austria (Styria and Lower Austria) or southern Germany - Bavaria, Swabia, even the
Palatinate (Rhein-Hesse today). A little later, 1750's on, there was also the Donau-Swabian
movement of thousands of colonists down the Danube, creating villages in southwestern Hungary.
Before 1600, most names in your area were Magyar or Slavic - after that, Germanic names appear
until they almost replace all the others. I believe our immigrant (to the US) ancestors mostly
stem from these later colonists. As you say, the records seem to support that.
It is very difficult to trace these colonists to their places of origin - I've traced mine to
the area around Graz about 1650 but no definite links. The best I can suggest is that you use
the online phone lists to search for concentrations of the names you are researching - that will
give you possible nearby places of origin, but finding the birth-marriage links is almost
impossible. The best you can hope for is that some record (church or land inventory) may mention
the place of origin - I've seen a very few that way. Some villages also have an oral history of
their peoples' place of origin. I don't offer much hope.
6. VILLAGE OF KROBOTEK
Krobotek, district of Jennersdorf was known as Horvatfalu, district of Szentgotthard, Hungary
prior to 1921. It is now part of the southern Burgenland community of Weichselbaum along with
Rosendorf (total population of all three villages is 884). There is an RC chapel but the parish
church is in Weichselbaum (Church of Maria-Bild-1793) and the civil records are in Mogersdorf.
There are Roman ruins in the area, which was later settled by Cistercian monks from the
monastery of Heiligenkreuz, Lower Austria about 1184. They built the cathedral at St. Gotthard
about 1187. The villages were probably part of those cathedral holdings. It is not known when
Krobotek was first founded. The entire area was subjected to pillage and plunder during the
Turkish Wars and Hungarian rebellions.
Krobotek is a German speaking linear village with only 360 inhabitants, mainly engaged in grape
and wine production. Located in the Raab Valley, near the Grieselstein woods, the area
contributed immigrants to the Auswanderung. The first from Kroboteck was Karl Schmidt (b1883)
who settled in Allentown, PA 1898. There were many early Ehritz families in Krobotek-see BB
record webpage. Gasthaus Deutsch in Weichselbaum was sold to the Deutsch family by Maria Ehritz
in 1959. Only one Ehritz family is now listed in the 1993 phone book (under Weichselbaum).
Newsletter continues as number 174A.
THE BURGENLAND BUNCH NEWS - No. 174A
DEDICATED TO AUSTRIAN-HUNGARIAN BURGENLAND FAMILY HISTORY
(Our 13th Year - Issued monthly as email by G. J. Berghold
April 30, 2008
(c) 2008 G. J. Berghold - all rights reserved
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The second section of this 2 section newsletter includes:
1. BH&R Website Hits A Milestone
2. Borderland Book Availability
3. Tale From First Generation Descendant Of 1950's Hungarian Auswanderung
4. ORF - Austrian Radio Burgenland Section
5. Slavery During Time Of The Turk - Village Of Purbach
6. "Amerika Lied" - BB Songbook
1. BH&R WEBSITE HITS A MILESTONE
- by BB staff member Frank Paukovits
The Burgenlanders' Honored and Remembered (BH&R) website hit a milestone in March 2008.
The Remembrance List of deceased Burgenlaenders reached 4,000 in March when Kim DiRoberts, a BB
member, added the name of her uncle Fabian Hütter to the site. Fabian Hütter was born in 1924 in
Tschanigraben. He immigrated to the U.S. as a boy, and lived in Allentown most of his life. He
served in the U.S. Army during WW-II and passed away in 2004. He is buried in the Long Island
National Cemetery, a cemetery for veterans and their spouses in Farmingdale, New York.
It's fitting that someone in the BB added the name, because so many of its members have such
strong feelings for their ancestry and deceased family members. Kim has been a BB Member for
about four years. She was born and raised in The Bronx, but now lives in Arizona. Her family
roots are from both Italy (father's side) and Burgenland (mother's side). She first researched
her Italian roots, and is now actively researching the Burgenland side of her family, which are
largely from the Hungarian/Burgenland border area near Radling.
Bob Strauch and Margaret Kaiser have been invaluable in the development of the site and adding
to its content. Bob, with the help Ed and Frank Tantsits, has been able to significantly
increase the Remembrance List for deceased immigrants from the Lehigh Valley enclave. That
segment of the site alone includes more than 3,000 names. Considering that we not only include
the names of the people, but the towns in Burgenland where they came from and, for many women,
their maiden names, is noteworthy. Because of the number of people in our database and the
information provided, I believe the site should become more and more useful as a research tool
for our BB members as time goes on.
Also, I have identified a significant number of people who could be added to the site from the
South Bend enclave, if I could identify the cemeteries where they are buried. I have the
information, but would need someone to go to the library in South Bend to look at the obits. My
guess is that it would take just a few hours, and we could probably add another hundred names to
the site. I know we have a number of BB members from the South Bend area, and maybe there's
someone in the area who would be willing to help. If so, please send me e-mail at
paukowits1(a)aol.com.
Additionally, I encourage all of our members to take a look at the BH&R site (there's a link to
it on the BB Homepage) and let me know if they have any names that they would like added of
relatives that are not yet included. It's a great way to honor and memorialize the people who
provided us with such fond memories and traditions that most of us hold so dearly.
2. BORDERLAND BOOK AVAILABILITY
Member Matt Boisen writes: Just reading about the scarcity of "Borderland".
I found my copy on eBay for $14 about two years ago. I've seen one other copy offered since
then. I would advise to keep checking or use a search tool as an alert in case a copy comes up
for auction. Keep up the good work!
Staff member Steve Geosits writes: For those having difficulty in obtaining a copy
of "Borderland; A Historical and Geographical Study of Burgenland, Austria", you can check if
any libraries near you carry the book. Go to the following link and enter your zip code.
http://www.worldcat.org/oclc/326674&tab=holdings?loc=.
3. TALE FROM FIRST GENERATION DESCENDANT OF 1950'S HUNGARIAN AUSWANDERUNG
Correspondent writes: I found the Burgenland Bunch website and although I should
be in bed sleeping.... I have been fascinated reading your archived newsletters. My name is
Julianna, I am a first generation American. I was born in Chicago six months after my parents
arrived in the USA in 1956, with my two older siblings and only one change of clothes per
person. They left their village of Kophaza, Hungary in search of a better life and found it here
in Chicago. In reading your story and others stories I felt a certain kinship with you because
my father, a skilled cabinetmaker found employment shortly after arriving and worked that same
job until he retired.
I have had the pleasure of visiting Austria/Hungary 4 times in my life and was able to meet a
grandmother, grandfather and aunts, uncles and cousins that still lived there. My last visit was
in 2000 when I took my three daughters to see where some of their roots are.
Over Easter, when I was visiting my 90-year-old godmother, she had given a box to her niece that
contained old photographs and some other keepsakes. Her niece laid a small prayer book down on
the table. I picked it up and as I looked inside I saw that it was written in Croatian. This is
the native tongue of my grandparents and my parents and I asked her if she is able to read or
speak Croatian, she replied "No" and offered the book to me.
Although I know this book did not belong to my grandmother? I can't help but feel a connection
to her, who I met 44 years ago for the first time. She took me to church that Christmas and she
carried with her a small black prayer book and followed along during the mass and she sang out
loud and proud... while I looked up at her and felt a love for a lady I never known before, the
lady whose name I was given on the day of my birth. I have no earthy possessions of my
grandparents, they were very poor people by material means, but I believe in my heart, my
grandmother was the richest lady in the world, spiritually. She gave me something that no one
can ever take from me; it's something I cannot put into words.
That very first visit to Hungary, when I was 6 or 7 years old, lives in my memory and is as
alive today as it was when it happened. I want to tell you one little story from that visit that
is a very fond memory for me.
It was winter and Christmas time when my mother took me with her to meet my grandparents and the
rest of the family still living in Hungary. My grandparents lived in a 2-room house. No indoor
plumbing at all. There was an outhouse and a well outside, with a wood burning stove for heat
and cooking in the kitchen.
Each morning my grandmother would put bricks on top of the stove and leave them there all day.
At night she wrapped the bricks in towels and placed them at the foot of the bed, underneath
huge feather blankets that they called blazinjas (not sure of the spelling). I was just a little
girl and it was so cold in that room, but I jumped into the bed and she covered me with a HUGE
feather blanket. I felt swallowed up by it and rubbed my feet on the hot wrapped bricks.
The heat from the bricks warmed up that bed so fast and I was so warm. That is my keepsake from
my grandmother... it's very special to me and I will have it forever.
My family surnames are Solyomi, Sinkovits, Grubits, Hienrich (or is it Heinrich), Firtl. One day
I will again return to Hungary and I will go to the church and ask for copies of the family
records so that my children and their children's children will know a tiny bit of who they are
and where they come from.
Thank you for your time and for reading my story...
4. ORF AUSTRIAN RADIO BURGENLAND SECTION
- courtesy Bob Strauch
(ED. Note: ORF or Austrian Radio Service has news sections by province; therefore,
there is a Burgenland section. In addition to local news events there are always featured
articles of local interest, often with village pictures. Two articles recently forwarded by Bob
Strauch feature Bauernbrodt (farmers' or peasant bread) and traditional printed cloth. ORF can
be reached from http://burgenland.orf.at/ (click on
Burgenland section) or from our homepage Internet Links - Radio & Music Sources - ORF
Landesstudio Burgenland.)
Bob suggests you visit the following:
Bread from Deutsch Bieling
http://burgenland.orf.at/magazin/imland/erleben/stories/271987/
A Burgenland folk-art tradition continues: the Koó Family in Steinberg
http://burgenland.orf.at/magazin/imland/erleben/stories/271570/
http://www.originalblaudruck.at/
(The Bgld. delegation handed out examples of the Koó family's "Blaudruck" as gifts during their
visit last year)
5. SLAVERY DURING TIME OF THE TURK - VILLAGE OF PURBACH
- courtesy Margaret Kaiser & Bob Strauch
(ED Note: During the Turkish Wars, slaves were a valuable commodity, and so many were
sent back to Istanbul that for many years the market for white, Christian slaves was very
depressed. Many villages were depopulated, setting the stage for post-invasion colonization.
Following is an oral tradition of such slavery. The village of Purbach (district of Eisenstadt)
was in the path of Turkish invasion, suffered greatly and has relics of those times.)
Margaret Kaiser suggests:
www.pitt.edu/~dash/purbach.html
Andreas Grein, of Purbach, a legend about Turkish slavery from Burgenland, Austria
During the Turkish wars, the wild hordes of riders advanced as far as Purbach. On such
occasions, the townspeople of Purbach fled into the nearby Leitha Mountains to seek refuge there
from the hordes. During one such attack, Andreas Grein remained at home.
When the Turkish horde found Grein, they placed him in handcuffs, tied him to a horse's tail,
and thus forced him to run along behind. The Turks took Grein back to their country where he was
housed in a stall and forced to pull a plow by day. For food he received nuts and millet.
After seven years of terrible suffering he succeeded -- with the help of a fellow countrywoman
-- in escaping from Turkey. In October 1647, after traveling on foot for many months, he arrived
at Purbach. He stopped to rest on his own property, about 1000 steps from the town. He then went
to his home, where he encountered his wife, who had recently remarried. She did not recognize
Grein, because of his wild appearance. After much discussion she recognized her husband from his
voice. She asked him for forgiveness, and they lived happily together until they died. The
second husband, of course, had to step aside. At the place where he had rested, Grein erected a
Holy Trinity column, inscribed with the year 1647.
Source: Inscription on a roadside plaque near Purbach, Burgenland, Austria. Transcribed
and translated by D. L. Ashliman, July 10, 1997.
Bob Strauch adds: The Purbach town website has a page about Andreas Grein,
his house, the column, and a votive picture. The text says that according to the legend, he was
abducted at the age of 10 or 12 (he was married at that age?)
http://www.purbach.at/seite.mv?40-21-35-00
6. "AMERIKA LIED" - BB SONGBOOK
If you link to our homepage at: http://www.the-burgenland-bunch.org
with your speakers turned on, you will hear the subject song. It is a haunting melody that
brings back the time of the Auswanderung. Along with other songs, you'll find the music and
words at the BB Songbook link. The words start: "Now is the time and hour we travel to Amerika."
Next to this song you will also find the Burgenland state anthem, the Burgenlandische
Landeshymne: "My native people, my native land". When I was presented with my "Ehrenzeichen"
medal in 2001, a chorus sang this anthem and the music brought back images of my grandparents
and tears to my eyes. Other songs in our songbook may well bring back memories of your own
family immigrants.
Our songbook is a joint effort of BB VP Hannes Graf and BB President Tom Steichen. You may wish
to copy the music or add it to your MP3 hardware.
END OF NEWSLETTER
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