BB News No. 85 dtd 31 Jul 2000

THE BURGENLAND BUNCH NEWS - No. 85 BURGENLAND INTERNET GROUP DEDICATED TO AUSTRIAN-HUNGARIAN BURGENLAND FAMILY HISTORY (issued biweekly by Gerald Berghold) July 31, 2000 (all rights reserved) CANADIAN MEMBERS - BE SURE TO READ THE LEAD ARTICLE IN 85A! Note to recipients. If you don't want to receive these Burgenland Bunch newsletters, use the Membership Forms to change your status. We can't help with non-Burgenland family history. Comments and articles are appreciated. Please add your full name to email. Our staff and web site addresses are listed at the end of newsletter section "B". Introductions, notes and articles without a by-line are written by the editor. We now have 543 readers. This first section of the 3-section newsletter contains the articles: - Addition to BB Staff, - Viennese Cyber Cafes, - Sources of Burgenland Flags, - Susan Peters Returns From Burgenland, - Check Those Hungarian Records, - Origin of Hungarians (Magyar) - Albert Schuch Meets BB Visitors. ADDITION TO BB STAFF I'm very pleased to report that Klaus Gerger has agreed to serve as a member of our staff. He spends his time between Vienna and Güssing and is well known as an unofficial ambassador of the Güssing area and southern Burgenland. He'll be listed as Burgenland Co-Editor (Klaus Gerger, Austria). Look for his maps and village lists available from our homepage. VIENNESE CYBER CAFES (from Inge Schuch) Gerry, The other day I came across a newspaper article on cybercafes in Vienna. It occurred to me that a Burgenland Bunch member traveling to Austria might find such information helpful, so here is a summary/commentary: There are just a few places where you can use the Internet for free. A good bet are the big outlets of the discount booksellers "Libro" (the most centrally located is probably the one in the "Eurocenter" department store close to the Westbahnhof-end of Mariahilferstrasse). You will also find computer terminals in "Amadeus" bookshops (two on Mariahilferstrasse in the seventh district; one at Landstrasse 2 in the third district; one is tucked away in the "Steffl" department store on Kärntnerstrasse in the first district). The drawback is that the handling is not that convenient, and that you may have to wait quite long for your turn, and that you are of course also bound by shop opening hours. The alternative are cybercafes. To me, the best deal seems to be the bignet.cafe (www.bignet.at). It is centrally located (Hoher Markt 8-9 in the first district of Vienna), and it is has rather long opening hours (from 10 a.m. to midnight). To use you have to open an account (to get a user name and a password) and buy "Internet time" (minimum: 10 minutes; 30 minutes cost ATS 50; two hours ATS 150). Altogether there are 18 workstations, so this place is really more like an office than a cafe (although drinks and snacks are available as well). Apparently a second outlet will open onKärntnerstrasse, also in the first district, in August 2000. Bignet has incidentally, also installed two workstations at the Vienna airport -look out for them in the waiting areas of Pier Ost and Pier West. A number of cafes offer both Internet access and the amenities of a coffee shop. There is, for instance, the Café Stein, located at Währingerstrasse 6-8, 1090 Vienna, which is also fairly central (close to the Votive Church/Schottentor). The cafe is open daily from 10 a.m to 11 p.m. They offer four Apple workstations and charge ATS 65 for half an hour. Expect the cafe to be rather trendy; it is a far shot from an old-style Viennese coffeehouse. An alternative nearby, drawing a more relaxed crowd, is the Café Einstein(Rathausplatz 4, also in the ninth district and close to the Schottentor hub of public transport). The place is open daily from 7 a.m. to 2 a.m.(Saturday and Sunday from 9 a.m.). Another centrally located Internetcafe and restaurant is Merlin's Cafe(Rudolfsplatz 2, 1010 Vienna). I would think that it is not that well-known, so this may be an advantage if you go there to check and send e-mail. They charge ATS 100 for any one hour that you spend online. So much for cybercafes in Vienna; maybe somebody will find this helpful. Naturally, Albert and I will also gladly help out and pass on information. Kind regards, Inge Ed. Comment: Coffee houses and now Cyber Cafes! The world of Strauss and the Blue Danube changes. I hope they also have a good pastry selection. On our last trip to Austria, I was amazed at how busy the coffee shops were-hard to find a seat and this in the middle of winter. My favorite coffee house story: It was 1947 and a well known Viennese Coffee House had almost returned to pre-war normality. A favorite "Baron" customer from before the War returned and sat at his favorite pre-war table. He received his "usual" coffee and asked the Herr Ober (headwaiter) for a copy of the Völkischer Beobachter. The Herr Ober replied "Sorry Herr Baron" but we no longer have the Völkischer Beobachter. The next day the same request, the same answer. The third day the same request. Finally, the Herr Ober said-"Baron-that newspaper is no more-it was a Nazi paper" The Nazis are no more!" I know that, said the Baron, I just like to hear you say it! SOURCE OF BURGENLAND FLAGS (Charles Wardell and Gerhard H. Lang) In the last issue, Darlene Muellner asked for a source for buying Burgenland flags. Two of our readers responded with addresses. Charles writes: There is a company in Vienna: Erste Oesterreichische Fahnenfabrik Am Hof 5 A-1010 Vienna Phone: +43-1-5332582 Fax: +43-1-533258236 They should be able to provide Burgenland Flags in all shapes and sizes; however, the e-mail address might be an old one. I suggest you fax. Gerhard writes: in BB-Newsletter you asked for URL's of firms selling or producing flags. Check out the following: http://www.ridia.at or http://www.gastrotrends.at/kunden_index.htm and look for "Fahnen-Gärtner". They don't have a homepage of their own, but you'll find their postal address and the phone number there. SUSAN PETERS RETURNS FROM BURGENLAND Susan writes: As everyone seems to be Burgenland "recipe crazy", I thought I would tell you about a cookbook my wonderful Burgenland cousin, Anneliese Hetlinger, gave to me while I was over there last week. It is called The Cooking of Burgenland, and is authored by Alois Schmidl. The best part is that it has been translated into English with American measurements. It was translated by Robert Szinovatz, and published in 1992 by Edition Roetzer, Wien-Eisenstadt. Anneliese bought it for us at a gift shop in Rust. The address of the company that published the cookbook is Edition Roetzer, Mattersburger Strasse 25, A-7000 Eisenstadt. By the way, there is an excellent book/stationery store in Stegersbach that has an even bigger selection of Burgenland books than the one in Gussing. (Ed. Note: -recipes from this book are featured in the bi-monthly Burgenländische Gemeinschaft News.) Our trip was fabulous. The superlatives everyone uses when writing their trip reports are not exaggerations! If the angels smile down on some, they were laughing and dancing while guiding us on our trip. Our relatives welcomed us back as if we had personally left them just a few years ago, rather than my g-g-g-grandfather in 1858. And after a couple of days, everyone in our village of Lebenbrunn claimed us as their relatives. And as we found out, we were! The very first day, Klaus Gerger stopped by our gasthof to welcome us... But I am getting ahead of myself. I only wanted to tell you about the cookbook right now and will follow up with a trip report at a later date. One more thing, just to let you know, the Burgenland Bunch is actually getting quite a reputation in Burgenland. (A good one, as far as I can tell!) Almost everywhere we went they had heard of us. Including both the civil and Catholic archives in Eisenstadt. I would recommend any members corresponding with Burgenland officials to identify themselves as Burgenland Bunch members. Well, until I get off cloud 9, sincerely, Susan Peters CHECK THOSE HUNGARIAN RECORDS Sometimes those Hungarian records can be garbled or misinterpreted. Then someone asks a question and the waters can become even muddier. Maureen Tighe-Brown responds to a previous newsletter question: "I'm responding to the following excerpt from our latest BBunch newsletter: Question: (record) says Furst, Gyorgy es Honigschnabl, Maria, parafztok. Would this be a set of parents or god parents??? Answer: If you have the child's surname, the father can't have another name unless illegitimate... In the Deutschkreutz records, every baptismal record appears in that way. It should really read "nee Honigschnabl, Maria," as this is the mother's maiden name. Thanks for an exceptionally interesting set of new letter segments; extremely varied, and for sure, something for everyone." ORIGIN OF HUNGARIANS (MAGYAR) You can't be interested in family history without wondering what the earliest origin of your family, tribe or race might be. The centuries give way to milleniums and the milleniums to eons and even longer. If you follow this to its conclusion, you begin to wonder about the origin of the species. Much work is underway to find the missing "links" in the homo sapien story. A recent question from Kathleen Kelly piqued my interest and caused me to provide my thoughts. Kathleen writes: Subj: Hungarian-Mongolian Connection I thought I would forward to you some information I have been collecting which might be of interest to some of the Burgenland Bunch who have Hungarian ancestry. About ten years ago one of my sisters, who is in the medical field, ran some blood tests on family members and discovered we have a genetic marker that is usually only found in Asians and African Americans. And I would say that approximately 20-25% of my Tschida family descendants have somewhat Asian-shaped eyes. This intrigued me, and a few years ago I mentioned it to a Hungarian scholar who told me that it is unusual for a person of Hungarian descent not to have either Northern Chinese, Siberian or Mongolian blood. Later that same year another sister of mine, who has said eyes, was teaching English as a Second Language to Asians and they asked her what part of Asia she came from. She told them that it was possible that she did have some Asian blood because of the tests run. All the Asians in the class agreed she was Mongolian. Last evening I attended a reception and I happened to meet the Ambassador for Mongolia to the UN and we spoke of Mongolia, and somehow I mentioned the above story to him. He said that in the last few years there has been a lot of interest on the part of the Hungarians to trace their roots and extensive research has been done. The Ambassador went on to say that it has been researched and authenticated that the Hungarians descended from the Mongols, as did the Native American Indians. The Hungarians are currently in Mongolia making a film relating to this subject of their ancestry. He did not know what the name of the film because it is still in production. I told the above to a friend of my mother, whose husband's father came from the Austro-Hungarian Empire, and she was amazed because she said her husband and her daughter both had the above mentioned eyes, and she always wondered where they came from. So in case there are others who may be interested, I am sending this on to you. I might also mention that I have always had an unexplainable interest in visiting Mongolia, and last month I even signed up for a Smithsonian Associates Conference on Mongolia that will be held in Washington, D.C. in September. Now perhaps I can explain some of that interest. Editor's Reply (in which I try to summarize my understanding of a lot of recent interesting theories of the origin of the species): I'm not an anthropologist by any means, but I have read some of the latest findings concerning the origin of our species as well as the origin of the Magyars. To equate Caucasian, Negroid and Mongol (Asiatic might be a better term) sub-species of homo sapiens, we must first develop their origin. There is of course a gap of many hundreds of thousands of years between first homo-sapiens and Magyars. It makes for an interesting article which I'll try to develop. If someone were to say that the Hungarians (Magyars) stem from the Mongolian species, I'm afraid I would have to ask (tongue in cheek) where, when and how? To many countries, origin has great significance. For instance, the Romanians claim they are descendants of Thracians from before the Roman period (pre-100 AD) in order to establish an earlier claim to Transylvania then the Hungarians, who came five hundred years later (900 AD). They feel this allows them to justify ethnic cleansing. Governments always tend to support the theories that are favorable to their nationalistic aspirations. Origins, however, are still far from being finite, as the following shows. The current most widely accepted theory of the origin of our "homo sapien" species seems to follow a double "out of Africa" scenario (recently covered in a PBS Television documentary). The first may have resulted in a movement into Europe of "homo erectus," probably the origin of what we know as Neanderthal man. Whether there were subsequent evolvements from them is obscure. Little is known of their period or disappearance. Climactic changes suggest they could have migrated as well and, in the large time-frame in which they existed, they in turn could have evolved other sub-species and have been absorbed by them or later by homo-sapiens. Likewise there appears to also have been initial movement out of Africa to the east and south into Asia as well. Again, whether by "homo erectus," Neanderthal or some other sub-species has not yet been determined. In the second "out of Africa" migration many hundreds of millenniums later, "homo sapiens" probably evolved as we know them today (later giving rise to the European or Caucasian species - this later evolves even further into Mediterranean, Alpine, Slavic, Germanic, etc. - the so-called Indo-Aryan and then their many tribal groups). Whether similar Negroid and Mongol (Asiatic) groups evolved then or in the first "out of Africa" scenario is still a question. So, did the first or second migration out of Africa gave rise to the Mongolian (Asiatic, Chinese, Sino, Micro-Melanesian, etc.). Likewise, the species that were the pre-tribal origin of the Magyars or other "steppe" tribes? We do know that the Magyars are of Finno-Ugric extraction. As such they differ in language and culture from all other Europeans. The late 500 AD period is as far back as can be determined with some degree of assurance, although the proto-Finns are reputed to have broken off and migrated to the Baltic regions about 2000 BC. From that point, the remainder (the proto-Magyar) are held to have migrated south into richer pasture land becoming nomadic pastoralists. Whether movement was caused by climactic changes or displacement by other tribes has not been established. One homeland of the Finno-Ugric has been traced to the southern Urals but not further east to the Mongolian plains. Any connection to Mongolian origins must therefore predate that time. Certainly the Mongol physical resemblance is there, as you mention. The "epithantic fold over the eyelids" for instance is most notable. Also the "Hunnish" culture and association, so evident in the earlier European periods, seems to indicate a connection (Hungarian stems from the word for Hun-Ungur). Europeans considered early Magyars to be Huns. However, you can counter with "what happened to facial and body hair and skin coloration?" Hair is mostly lacking in the Mongoloid (as well as the American Indian), present in some degree in the Magyar. Skin coloration also differs. It's interesting that even though my ancestors are German except for one Magyar g-grandmother and one perhaps Slavic (?) g-grandfather, their descendants have a minor epithantic fold. Hirsute and color characteristics are like most Caucasians. Of course the Huns, Mongols and other Asiatic invaders of Europe left their genes wherever they went, as did the Greeks and Romans before them. The above Magyar theory is based mostly on the study of languages. Another group called the "orientalists" claim that the cradle of the Magyars was not the southern Urals but instead the Turanium Plain in central Asia (formerly Soviet Turkestan). This region stretches eastward from the Caspian Sea to Lake Balchas. Ancient records call the area Scythia. A living tradition fed by folklore holds that the Magyars were either part of or closely acquainted with this group who built a vast Scythian empire about 500 BC. There are some who hold that the Magyars were even exposed to the Sumerian culture which inhabited the region as early as 3000 BC. From this area arose empires built by the Huns, Avars, Khazars and various other Turkic groups. The Magyar had relations with all of them at one time or another. The Avars subsequently established a Khanate in Pannonia (including Burgenland) in the period 500-800 AD. They were destroyed by the Franks under Charlemagne in the late 700's, giving rise to the first Germanic presence in Burgenland. So we have lots of possibilities including intermarriage and addition of alien genes affecting physical characteristics. There was much movement and counter movement of the species prior to recorded history and the Magyars could well be an offshoot or later development of one of them, or from the Mongolian or Chinese groups. Something like the following (there are extremely large unknown gaps of time between the first nine segments): o out of Africa I or II? o evolvement of the Mongolian (Asiatic) species? o migration of a sub-species west? o evolvement of Finno-Ugric from one of the above o evolvement of Magyar I o migration south and west o association with Scythians and Sarmatians? o association of Magyar I with steppe races (Huns, Mongols, Pechenegs, Alans, Onogurs, Turkic-Bulgars, etc.)? o evolvement of Magyar II (the tribes of Arpad) o forays into western Europe, 800 AD o defeat at Lechfeld, 955 AD o withdrawal into Pannonia (the Hungarian Plain) o forays into the southern Slavic lands (Serbia, Croatia) o establishment of the Hungary and Hungarians we know today It has long been held that our own American Indians have a Mongolian origin and arrived via a Bering Sea land bridge. Here too, other theories have appeared. Maybe Magyar origins are related to those of the American tribes. Recent archaeological finds on the west coasts of both North and South America have triggered some interesting counter theories. Our "Indians" could well have evolved from a southern "out of Africa" species or Neanderthal sub-species. The ocean currents sweep eastward and similarities between Asiatic and Central and South American cultures are too obvious to be discounted. Likewise there could have been many migrations, both pre- and post- Bering land bridge. There is still too large a time gap between "out of Africa" and tribal (racial) formation to form conclusive proof of these kinds of origins. Even our western Indian tribes spoke of the "old ones" (Anasazi?) here long before them. Of course, in any family history, for the most of us, the time before 1500 AD is a never never land of theory, conjecture and myth. Still, it poses tantalizing questions and probabilities. Perhaps recent and future developments in genetics will provide the answers - just imagine a family history encompassing such a time frame! A most interesting subject but still fraught with changes and possibilities. I hope I haven't taken any out of context and I'm sure there are others unknown to me. I might suggest some further reading which I've enjoyed: o In Search of the Indo-Europeans, J. P. Mallory, Thames & Hudson, 1996, origins of Indo-Europeans based on language o The Spirit of Hungary (very biased but much fact), Stephen Sisa, Rakoczi Foundation, 1990, traces movement of the Magyar tribes o A History of Hungary, Sugar, Hanak, Frank Indiana University Press, 1994, a brief synopsis of Magyar origins, migration and then much national formation o Gesta Hungarorum & The Deeds of the Hungarians, Simon of Keza, CEU Press, 1999, what was known orally in the 14th century (much has been proven false) o The Oxford Companion to Archaeology, B. Fagan Editor, Oxford Univ. Press, 1996, has archaelogical support for theories There are also works concerning language, archaeological and anthropological studies which support some of the theories. Marija Gimbutas (professor emerita of European archaeology, UCLA) has done some outstanding work in this area (Civilization of the Goddess, Harper-Collins, 1991 and others). She and others lean toward a theory of an early European period of maternal (pre-patriarchal) harmony and peace which was shattered by migrations of pastoral warrior races from the east. The first introduction of Asiatic genes to the west? In studying pre-recorded history, you encounter some fascinating theories. As one genealogist said to another in front of the grave of Adam and Eve, "well, I guess that's it!" BB VISITORS TO AUSTRIA MEET WITH BB BURGENLAND EDITOR & ATTEND BG PICNIC (from Albert Schuch) Time for a brief account of last Saturday's meeting with BB members Hap Anderson, Susan Peters, James Grassinger, Wendy Grassinger, Phyllis Sauerzopf, Angela Latta and your cousin Klaus Gerger in Stegersbach. I had already met Phyllis and Angela on the day of their arrival in Vienna, and I had seen photos of Susan and Hap, so it was easy to find them outside the church at Stegersbach. My parents, Aunt Maria and Uncle Edi from Stegersbach, my sister Inge and my friend Elisabeth were also there. The mass with Bishop Iby lasted from 5 till 6 p.m., and when we left the church it had already started to rain. So the open-air celebration on Northampton Square had to be cancelled and the festival continued in the old schoolhouse of Stegersbach. The "Burgenländische Gemeinschaft" celebrated the 25 year partnership between Stegersbach and Northampton, PA, but apparently not a single person from Northampton was present. The traditional group tour had been cancelled with short notice due to the illness of Tessie Teklits, who had been organizing it. A celebration in Northampton was scheduled for the very same hour. Nonetheless a few American Burgenländers from other regions attended the festival in Stegersbach, including of course the above 6 members of the BB, who received a special greeting from Dr. Walter Dujmovits, the president of the "Burgenländische Gemeinschaft". He did so both in German and in English, and he also came to our table to talk with the BB visitors in person. Hap and Susan had bought his book and asked him to sign it, which he did. He also asked Susan to send a report about the Minneapolis picnic of the BB for his newsletter. The local branch of the BB was represented by Klaus Gerger, Heinz Koller, my sister Inge and myself. Klaus and Heinz also took part in the annual BG picnic in Moschendorf on the next day. Klaus then came up with the idea of organizing a BB picnic in Austria on the day of the BB picnic in Minneapolis. A nice idea. He has meanwhile emailed the Austrian members, so we will soon know if others want to take part. Another subject we have been discussing is the name Burgenland Bunch and its impact over here: People often are confused because they simply do not understand the word "bunch". So we should really think about an official German name. If you agree, I would like to discuss this with Klaus and with those members who reply to his picnic email. (Ed. Note: I agree, the word "Bunch" just does not translate well in German - one idea is to add "Burgenland Internet Group" to our name. We'd still keep "Burgenland Bunch" as our trademark. (newsletter continues as no. 85A) THE BURGENLAND BUNCH NEWS - No. 85A DEDICATED TO AUSTRIAN-HUNGARIAN BURGENLAND FAMILY HISTORY (issued biweekly by Gerald Berghold) July 31, 2000 This second section of the 3-section newsletter contains: - Family History Television Series Planned For Canadians - Travel In Hungary, - Report of Phyllis Sauerzopf's Recent Trip - Report of Multilingual Changes in Burgenland. FAMILY HISTORY TELEVISION SERIES FOR CANADIAN MEMBERS - MAYBE YOU'LL RECEIVE A TRIP TO THE "HEIMAT" (from Charles Wardell) Charles forwarded the following email: (from:) Jeremy Schmidt, Researcher Great North Productions 3720 76th Ave Edmonton, Alberta, Canada T6B2N9 Phone (780) 440-2022 Ext. 265 Fax (780) 461-7521 I am working as a researcher for a Canadian company called Great North Productions. We a researching for a series called "Going Home", The series will be seen on two channels, The Life Network, and the History Channel. The History Channel wants a story with a historical spin, and the Life Network wants a dramatic story. We want to incorporate both of these elements. Going Home Series Overview Going Home is a weekly, half-hour television series that will follow Canadian families or individuals, the famous and not-so-famous, as they return to the country of their family's origins-sometimes for the first time in their lives, sometimes for the first time in generations, and sometimes, to renew friendships with close friends and relatives. Going Home will present to a national audience the varied multi-cultural facets of our country and help Canadians understand where many of us came from-and, as importantly, why we came. Combining travel, history and cultural exploration, Going Home promises to be unique, informative, entertaining and participatory. The series will be unpretentious and unpredictable. In true cinema viewer's style, we will never know in advance what awaits our travelers. Viewers watching Going Home will come to expect the unexpected. Genealogy has become almost a sacred mission for tens of thousands of Canadians, and millions of people worldwide. Canada's Centennial in 1967 and Alex Haley's 1976 book Roots, fuelled earlier explosions in searching out family trees. This latest phenomenon springs from the Internet. With only minimal coaching, people are flocking to related web sites (there are over two million-and counting) to transport themselves back in time. When the Mormons set up their free Internet site in May 1999, it received a staggering 30 million electronic hits in its first day of operation. Surprisingly, the most dedicated questions, according to a survey for American Demographics magazine, are 35 to 44 years old, a group whose nomadic days are over and who are often raising kids. They show a strong desire to reconnect to their roots-to fill in the gaps. The families or individuals who trace their heritage in episodes of Going Home will be selected by means of electronic and print research. A small production committee might screen short home videos submitted by interested parties in which they explain why they want to return to their ancestral homeland. These videotapes could become part of the opening sequence of each episode, and would enable the producers to ensure that the subjects of each episode are comfortable before the cameras and have engaging personalities. Once the successful applicants have been selected, our documentary crew will film them in Canada as they prepare for their trip and we will find out what they expect to learn from their journey. We will then follow them to their destination and document their experiences. We will come to learn something about the land and the culture they left, find out why they (or their forefathers) emigrated to Canada, and learn whether or not they now think this was a wise decision. In some cases, we may arrange for our travelers to be met by a local expert genealogist and/or historian who will have been selected, as is done on the successful Antique Road Show series, for their expertise in specific regions and time periods, and for their on-camera presence and personality. The expert will then accompany the visitor back to the region of his or her ancestry; explore both the history and the contemporary reality of the area and attempt to make a connection with the visitor's ancestral roots. Each half-hour episode of Going Home will consist of one major documentary segment in which we follow one family or individual back to the country of their ancestry. This would be the centerpiece of each program. It could be packaged with the video audition tapes and with interviews with the subjects after they have returned from their trip. A studio host would conduct these interviews, someone well recognized as an historian of note and with a comfortable on-camera presence. Great North Productions would like to pay for an individual to take a trip to their homelands. I'd like to contact names and phone numbers of Canadians that would like to take a trip to their homeland. Please reply if you have any leads or people that we can follow up with. I am more than happy to send information on Going Home and Great North Productions. This is a real offer!!!! If you want to go back to your homeland and you have a story to tell, or for more information feel free to contact me. Ranked as Canada's leading producer of documentaries for 1998/99, Great North Productions Inc. is living up to its mandate of creating high quality Television programming with international scope and appeal. Based in Edmonton, Alberta, Great North has operated for 13 years and has produced nearly 300 hours of television programming. Great North programs have won 30 Alberta Film Awards, have been frequent finalists at the annual Hot Docs and Gemini Awards, and have been recognized by the Charleston International Film Festival, New York Festivals, and the Emmy Awards. Great North has produced for all major Canadian television networks, as well as many specialty channels including Discovery Channel, History Television and Life Network in Canada, and National Geographic Television and The Learning Channel in the US. In addition, Great North has partnered with prominent American and overseas production companies on diverse documentaries. To get a clear understanding of your story, I'm including a questionnaire. Feel free to answer it at your convenience. Also, I've been asking people interested in Going Home to give me a full write up. includes; names, birth and death dates of relatives, and location information on the place they would like to visit that may play a factor in telling the story. Most importantly, we want to hear of the trigger that made you want to go back home. What event or thought makes you feel compelled to go? 1) Where exactly do you want to go? 2) Who/what will you see there? 3) What do you feel you will experience? 4) How long do you want to go for? 5) When are you able to go? 6) What is the trigger that makes you want to visit your homeland? 7) Any additional information? What we need though is to arrive at a solid scenario for you to go home. Along with a simple going home scenario, we need to find what I call the "clincher". This is a part of the story where we see resolution. For an example, I am working on a story of a master cabinetmaker. He is working on a cathedral in his workshop. We want to send him back to his homeland after 25 years of being away. This master will search out his mentor, the man who taught him to carve, in the hopes he can learn a special technique, as well as obtain a special tool to finish the job. As you can see, there is drama and resolution in that story. Do you have a special mission when you return home? I would really like to forward your story, but we need to arrive at the clincher for your story. I look forward to hearing more. Good Luck. Jeremy Schmidt, Researcher Great North Productions 3720 76th Ave Edmonton, Alberta T6B 2N9 Phone (780) 440-2022 Fax (780) 461-7521 Charles sent the following note: ...in order to help you get additional exposure for your undertaking, I am copying the following persons: a) The Chairman of the WorldGenWeb Project, Nathan Zipfel b) The founder of the "Burgenland Bunch", Gerry Berghold. This is a very focused research group with several members from Canada. c) The editors of RootsWeb's MISSING LINKS and ROOTSWEB REVIEW, Julia M. Case and Myra Vanderpool Gormley d) Robert Kobenter of Vancouver Island, Canada -- who is host of CarinthiaGenWeb and StyriaGenWeb (Austrian provinces) -- and who is planning a research trip to Austria in August. e) Gail Edwards, Coordinator, Canada GenWeb Project I hope this will be of some help. Good luck and best wishes, HUNGARIAN TRAVEL COMMENTS (from Bob Unger and George Tebolt) Following our travel hints article, I received a thank you email from George Tebolt. I responded, thanking him for his comments. He also mentioned that some of his Burgenland Ancestors had moved to Hungary and that he has traveled to Hungary several times to visit them. I asked him about his travels, since many BB readers have commented about travel in Hungary - mostly reporting problems. I ten asked George to write about his travels- for consideration as material for the BB newsletter. His response follows: Subject: Travel to Hungary Dear Bob: This year we picked up our auto in Dusseldorf since we visit a cousin in Wesel Germany about 100 kilometers north. We returned the auto in Vienna where we flew to Scotland and visited my wife's relatives before returning to the USA. We rented a mid size auto (Opel Vettra) for 15 days at $814.00. This included extras for not returning to the original destination and extra insurance for travel to Hungary and the Czech Republic. I think they charged us about $100.00 extra for both. Driving in Hungary has not been a problem for us. Most of the roads are in good condition with not too many potholes as we find here in USA but most are single lane. Therefore good defensive driving skills are a must since you don't know when someone will be driving towards you to pass a slow truck or farm machinery. The first time I drove in Hungary was in 1997. A vacation trip to Austria with my daughter and son in law aroused my curiosity to look for my roots in Hungary. My grandparents had come to America in 1900 from Bakonyszucs, Veszprem County. However in 1997 I did not know that and a distant relative told me to look around Fenyofo. We did find a distant relative in Fenyofo but she could not help in finding my grandparent's family. However upon returning home I did manage to find a 2nd cousin in New Jersey who came here in 1956 and she gave me all the family info I needed, There were 2 old uncles and family in Balatonalmadi whom we have been visiting every year since. This year we finally found our first live Tibold relative in Bakonytamas. In 1997 my son in law kept the car one more day in Vienna so I could drive to Hungary and look for relatives. I did not know anything about getting extra insurance for Hungary and my wife got very nervous when the boarder guard kept looking over our rental papers for more than 5 minutes and finally waved us through. I guess we were lucky that we had no problems with the insurance. In 1997 we encountered more horse drawn wagons but today they are almost all gone. Also we have noticed a steady improvement in more and better autos in Hungary although the traffic is still light in most of Veszprem County. In 1998 we went to visit a cousin in Budapest and like all large cities the traffic is heavy especially during rush hours. We usually spend most of our time in Balatonalmadi where my old uncle and aunt live next to the Aurora Hotel. This makes it easy for us since we can walk back and forth. The Aurora is an old eleven story hotel built in the 1950's by the Russians and no improvements since then. But it is clean and has a wonderful breakfast buffet and costs only 70 marks a day for a double room with breakfast. Everybody at the hotel speaks German since most of the guest (bus loads) are from east Germany. The hotel staff speak English also. But no TV this year. Previously we had a TV but this year they are down to only 4 rooms out of approx. 250 with a TV. I always feel comfortable and secure here since the hotel and guest are friendly and a security guard watches your car in the parking lot. My grandmother' s house was taken away from them in 1948 after they replaced the old thatched roof and fixed it up. A Russian family still lives there today. They all had to speak Hungarian and did not dare to teach their children any German. All the male relatives fought in the German or Hungarian army, I'm not sure which one since they don't want to talk about it. My cousin still cries when she thinks about loosing their house and all their possessions. Today a lot of Germans are buying property and weekend houses in Veszprem County. When I first started visiting my relatives in Balatonalmadi, my aunt told me not to speak German in front of the hotel security guard, a retired policeman. When I was talking to the grandchildren, some who speak good English, about German dishes my grandmother used to make, they said that is not Hungarian food. The tone of voice seemed to imply that they are all Hungarian now! Actually most of the family are intermarried with Hungarians. When we visited Csatka, a religious shrine to the blessed mother, we met the priest who showed us around the shrine even though he spoke only Hungarian. When we were ready to leave he asked us for a ride back to town which was about a mile down a dirt road. There he had us stop at a house to get a woman who could speak German. She told us a little about the shrine and that in September there is a great feast and 25 to 30,000 people visit the shrine, quite a large amount of people for a small town of perhaps 500 inhabitants. Also, she is from Germany where her husband works 2 weeks at a hospital and is then off for 3 weeks in Hungary and is fixing up their old house. My uncle also told us that a lot of Germans are coming back to this area. When I visited the family in Bakonyszucs one of the high school girls is learning German. It seems that the larger schools teach English and German and the smaller country schools only teach German as a second language. Perhaps there is a shortage of English Teachers. I hope I have answered most of your questions. I'm sure you will not have any problem traveling in Hungary and finding people to speak English or German especially in the tourist areas. Let me know if I can share any other experiences with you. Last year the Hungarian border guard spoke to me in German at the border. Also this year the guard asked if I spoke German. When I said yes, he asked a few simple questions in German. I guess they are more comfortable speaking German than English. Best Regards, George Tebolt PHYLLIS SAUERZOPF'S RECENT TRIP (INCLUDES ADDRESS FOR EBERAU CIVIL RECORDS) Phyllis writes to John Lavendoski: I am sorry I didn't get to email you from Austria. Everyone was using the computer at the Walits-Guttmann to email their families, and Herta got a new computer while we were there. It was necessary for me to get her every time I wanted to write or send emails so it was difficult to write too many. I made it to Szent Peterfa (Hungary) church with Angela and we had no problems getting over or back from Heiligenkreuz. There was a mass going on at the church when we arrived, and there were so many people there that it was SRO and people were standing outside. I managed to get a good view of the priest and the mass on my camcorder. I even have the church bells! I found your Jurasit's grave and another new one not far from this one so I have taken pictures of both for you. You will be very pleased with the results of the restoration. They are beautiful. After mass I went to talk to the priest. There were 3 woman there with him and one of them was able to translate for me. I found out in the end that she was a Jany from Northampton. Jany was her maiden name. I was able to tell the priest that you had managed to eventually get the Traupmann records to Elizabeth Traubmann in NY. I took her picture along to show him. I also had my "book of Traupmann records from the church to show him so he would understand. He did understand and was very happy to hear the news! I also had the woman tell him I was there to get pictures of your newly restored Jurasit's grave. He was happy about that too. I am sorry to say that I didn't get your wine bottles. I had gifts of wine bottles to also take home and other gifts and presents I received that my suitcases were packed tight and filled to the max. I have good news about the civil records in Eberau. Bob Geshl was right! Eberau has the civil records for Eberau, Gaas, Kr.-Ehrensdorf, Kulm and Winten from October 1895 until the present day. These include births, marriages and deaths. They do not speak English but were very helpful and they found my gr-g-grandfather Pal Traupman's death for me in 1896 and made a large copy of it for me. I also bought of book of Eberau and surrounding villages about the history of the area with many pictures. The Burgemeister also said we can request information from America, no problem. Here is their address and email address: Marktgemeindeamt 7521 Eberau 18 Parteienverkehr: Mo-Mi-Fr.: 8-12 Uhr Freitag: 13,30 - 16,3 Uhr Telefon: 03323 / 4003 Telefax: 03323/4003-20 Austria is beautiful and it's people are so kind, helpful and friendly words cannot express it fully!!! I am so happy I went there and for sure the Burgenland Bunch information has helped in making this trip a success. Sincerely, Phyllis Sauerzopf BURGENLAND ADAPTING MULTILINGUAL CHANGES (from Fritz Königshofer) The following message is straight from today's web news by the Austrian Broadcasting Corporation (www.orf.at). It says that in the named four towns, Hungarian will be admitted as an additional official language for civil matters starting October 1. This may be of interest for the BB newsletter. I am glad to see how the Austrians manage to clear away the legacy of the past, and reconcile with the positive things! [a translation appears in square brackets following each paragraph] Burgenland: Ungarisch wird vier Mal Amtssprache [Hungarian becomes the official language four times] Vom 1. Oktober an ist Ungarisch zusätzlich zu Deutsch als Amtssprache in vier burgenländischen Gemeinden zugelassen. Die Gemeinden sind: Oberpullendorf, Oberwart, Rotenturm an der Pinka und Unterwart. [From October 1, Hungarian was admitted to German as an official language in four Burgenland communities. The communities are: Oberpullendorf, Oberwart, Rotenturm an der Pinka and Unterwart.] In diesen vier Gemeinden haben zukünftig Angehörige der ungarischen Volksgruppe das Recht im Verkehr mit den Verwaltungsbehörden und Gerichten die ungarische Sprache zu gebrauchen. Außerdem haben sie das Recht, dass ihnen Entscheidungen und Verfügungen neben der deutschen Sprache auch auf ungarisch zugestellt werden. [In these four municipalities, members of the Hungarian ethnic group will have the right to use the Hungarian language in dealings with administrative authorities and courts. They also have the right to receive decisions and orders in Hungarian as well as German.] Kroatisch seit 13 Jahren zweite Amtssprache [Croatian has been the second official language for 13 years] Kroatisch ist in sechs der sieben Bezirke des Burgenlandes als zusätzliche Amtssprache vor Verwaltungsbehörden und Gerichten zugelassen. In zahlreichen zweisprachigen Gemeinden erfolgten 1999 laut Bundeskanzleramt "die meisten mündlichen Anbringen" in der kroatischen Amtssprache. Dabei gibt es Unterschiede: "Fast alle mündlichen Amtshandlungen in kroatischer Sprache" erfolgen in Klingenbach, Trausdorf, Neudorf, Nikitsch und Großwarasdorf. 90 bis 95 Prozent der mündlichen Amtshandlungen erfolgten in kroatischer Sprache in Oslip, Siegendorf, Zagersdorf, Frankenau-Unterpullendorf, Schachendorf und Schandorf. In Weiden bei Rechnitz wurden 60 bis 70 Prozent der mündlichen Amtshandlungen in Kroatisch durchgeführt. [Croatian is permitted in six of the seven districts of Burgenland as an additional official language before administrative authorities and courts. In 1999, according to the Federal Chancellery, "most of the oral attachments" were made in numerous Croatian municipalities in the Croatian official language. There are differences: "Almost all oral official acts in Croatian" take place in Klingenbach, Trausdorf, Neudorf, Nikitsch and Großwarasdorf. 90 to 95 percent of the oral official acts took place in Croatian in Oslip, Siegendorf, Zagersdorf, Frankenau-Unterpullendorf, Schachendorf and Schandorf. In Weiden bei Rechnitz, 60 to 70 percent of the oral acts were carried out in Croatian.] (newsletter continues as no. 85B) THE BURGENLAND BUNCH NEWS - No. 85B DEDICATED TO AUSTRIAN-HUNGARIAN BURGENLAND FAMILY HISTORY (issued biweekly by Gerald Berghold) July 31, 2000 This third section of the 3-section newsletter contain: - Format Changes to our Village and Surname Lists - Third Minnesota BB Picnic - Simultaneous BB Meeting For Austrian Members - More On Slavic Names In Austria - US Census Going On-Line - Recipe for Poppy Seed Filling - Strobl Eisenburg Trio - Village of Unterwaldbauren - Gülly Name - Member Changes FORMAT OF HOMEPAGE VILLAGE AND SURNAME LISTS TO CHANGE As our lists grow and more internet hardware appears on the scene, it becomes necessary to change our list formats so everyone can read them. Bill Rudy and Tom Steichen report they are doing just that. All this takes time away from regular updates so be patient if your data does not appear for a few weeks. One member writes: I am having a problem with your village pages now that the BBunch has grown. I have webtv and a 3.0 browser. Because of this, I am not able to get all of the names of the villages being researched. Those of us who don't have a 4.0 or higher are not able to have full access to long pages. (Ed. - both Tom and Bill agreed to accommodate the request.) THIRD BURGENLAND BUNCH MINNESOTA PICNIC (from Susan Peters and Hap Anderson) (also see notice on homepage) The plans for the Burgenland Bunch (and other interested parties) picnic have been finalized. Here are the specifics: Date: Sunday, August 13 Time: 10:00AM- 3:00PM Where: Wabun Park, Minneapolis, MN. This park is the same spot we had the picnic last year and centrally located in the Twin Cities. It is adjacent to Minnehaha Park, but has its own entrance. (Don't go into Minnehaha Park, you won't be able to get to Wabun from there.) This will be a very casual affair. Please bring whatever you would like to eat and drink and whatever else you may need: plates, napkins, utensils, condiments, bug spray, other picnic paraphernalia. It is basically "every man for himself". Also, if you desire, you may bring some kind of food to share: salads, chips, pickles, desserts, etc. We have again reserved the entire covered area in case of inclement weather, so the picnic will be held rain or shine. We are definitely hoping for shine. The shelter has electrical outlets and sinks with running water. There are 17 permanent grills around the site, so there shouldn't be a problem commandeering one. There is also a "tot lot" nearby, which has playground equipment, if we have any smaller children attending. We will be asking for a $4 fee from each attendee this year. We have changed the way we collect the fee as some felt it unfair to have to pay $10 when only one person was attending rather than a family. We agree. The fee covers the $130 cost of the park shelter reservation and incidental supplies. Please don't attend without paying the fee "because you won't be eating any of the shared food or be signing up for the door prizes". The shared food isn't covered by the fee, as it is generously brought and shared by other attendees. The door prize costs are small when considering the reservation fee. However, this year we will be having some special door prizes straight from Burgenland. We will have our flags up like last year to identify our area. Maps of the park location are available by email or U.S. mail from Hap Anderson. (See below.) It is also on the BBunch website. We could also email "verbal" directions from a known landmark like the Minneapolis/St. Paul airport.(The park is very near the airport.) Don't forget to bring your genealogical treasures you want to share: family group sheets, descendants charts, pictures, books, copies of records, Burgenland travel info, etc. Please RSVP to Susan Peters by Monday, August 1st. Please let me know the names of the people attending, the surnames and villages you are researching, and include your telephone number in case of late breaking events where email is not possible. I will have a handout at the picnic with the names of the attendees and research information. If I have inadvertently missed someone on the invitation list, I'm very sorry. Please forward the message to them and let me know. If you know anyone else who would be interested, please feel free to forward the invitation to them as well. We are looking forward to renewing acquaintances from last year and meeting new friends and relatives this year! Susan Peters and Hap Anderson BB MEETING FOR AUSTRIAN MEMBERS Klaus Gerger contacted all Austrian Members of the BB to ask if they would be interested in meeting at either Vienna or Güssing on the same date as the Minnesota picnic, August 13. If you have an interest and haven't already heard from Klaus, please contact him. Klaus also mentions how nice it was to meet BB members who recently visited southern Burgenland (the Hap Anderson, Susan Peters group, et al. They gave him an idea for a similar meeting in Austria. He writes: Hallo Liebe BB-member in Österreich! Anfang Juli waren einige Mitglieder der Burgenland Bunch auf Besuch in Österreich. Es war toll einmal die Gesichter der Menschen zu sehen, die man seit langem via Internet kennt. Mit von der Partie waren auch die Veranstalter des Minneapolis BB - Picnics. Dabei ist im Gespräch die Idee ent-standen so ein Picnic auch in Österreich zu veranstalten. Ein möglicher Temin (an dem auch das Minnesota Picnic stattfindet) ist Sonntag der 13.8.2000 Nachmitags oder Abends. Als Ort ist Wien vorgeschlagen. Ich würde mich freuen von Euch zu hören (lesen): - hast Du prinzipielles Interesse an einem Treffen? - pass der Termin? - ist Wien ok? Oder alternativ dazu Güssing oder anderswo im Burgenland ? - Vorschläge zur Gestaltung (wirklich ein "picnic", oder ...?) Liebe Grüße, Klaus Gerger On July 27 Klaus again wrote that he has finalized a meeting of Austrian BB members August 13 at the Auswanderer Museum in Güssing. After the meeting they will adjourn to the Gasthof Tomanek in Steingraben. Any American BB members who happen to be in the vicinity, please take note or contact Klaus. He writes: "Wir treffen uns am Sonntag den 13 August 2000 um ca. 14:00 beim Auswanderer Museum in Güssing. Nach einer Führung fahren wir(zwischen 15:30 und 16:00) zum Gasthof Tomanek in Steingraben. Dort können wir im Gastgarten, oder bei unfreundlichem Wetter drinnen, plaudern bzw. Erfahrungen austauschen. Ihr könnt selbstverständlich Familie, Freunde und andere Interessierte mitbringen." MORE ON SLAVIC NAMES IN AUSTRIA (from Fritz Königshofer) Melissa, This refers to the exchange of communications about your family name which you had with Gerry Berghold, as reported in the BB Newsletter No. 81. If you check the Austrian on-line phone directory at www.etb.at you will find names like Korosak, Koroschak, and the rather frequent Kortschak. Another place for you to look is the listing of Hungarian shopkeepers and tradesmen (a "yellow pages" dating to the year 1910) which was computerized by Jänos Bogärdi and can be sampled at his web site http://www.bogardi.com/gen/g079.shtml You will see that it has names like Koropcsäk, Korcsäk, Korcsak, Korcsik and Korcsek. Bogardi offers an option to show you in which counties the corresponding shopkeepers or tradesmen were listed. Korcsäk or Korcsak is the Hungarian spelling, while Kortschak is the Austrian spelling, of the same family name. US CENSUS GOING ON-LINE (Suggested by Anna Kresh and Maureen Tighe-Brown) The US Census is not as important to BB members as the LDS Burgenland Church and Civil Record Microfilm, nonetheless the 1910 and 1920 census does provide much US immigrant and descendant data for those who do not have all of their family groupings or who are looking for arrival dates or villages of origin. They are also a good place for Burgenland members to search for their US relatives. Placing the census on the net will be a tremendous accomplishment. As you may know, the US census has been taken every ten years since 1790 and is released to the public after 75 years. Unfortunately, the data collected varies with each census, but the 1910 and 1920 census list all family members and contain ethnic origin data. Anna writes: Subj: Fwd: WWW: Entire US Census, 1790-1920, going online I subscribe to Heritage Quest magazine, but I am so far behind in such reading that I don't know any details on the following message from Maureen. Do you know more? Is this going to be available to HQ subscription members or are they planning to have some sort of membership to make this available online to subscribers? (Ed. I don't know the details.) Maureen writes: Have you seen this? Wow! > -------------Forwarded Message----------------- From: H-NET Discussion List for Association for History and Computing, Subject: Entire US Census, 1790-1920, going online Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 > Colleagues, This will be a big story. > > Heritage Quest, inc. is going online with the entire US Census, all 12,555 rolls of film. The U.S. Census from 1790 to 1920, fully digitized is going online. You can get more information at a demo during ALA in Chicago, on Saturday, July 8, from 9:30 - Noon in the Hyatt Regency Grand Ballroom E, or stop by the Heritage Quest booth, #3625. It will be available by subscription to libraries when it is up this Fall at GenealogyDatabase.com. This is expected to be the largest data base of any subject on the Internet. POPPY SEED FILLING Eric Gironda writes: Question: I have bulk poppyseeds available cheaply at my store but not the canned fillings. How do I make the filling? Grind up the seeds with sugar? Does it need to be cooked? Answer: Poppyseed Filling (for previous amount of dough-2 rolls) (Does not need to be cooked) 2 cups ground poppy seed - use fine blade of grinder mix with 1/2 cup sugar (can be added when grinding poppy seeds) add grated lemon rind to taste (try 1 tbsp) pinch of cinnamon (optional) enough milk or cream to make a moist spreadable paste spread on rolled dough top with 1/2 cup raisins if desired STROBL EISENBURG TRIO? (from Eric Gironda) I have been searching for information re: The Strobl Eisenburg Trio. During the 30's they played as a polka band up and down the east coast area. They were based in New Rochelle, NY, and made numerous 78's under Columbia or RCA. I used to have a 78 when I was a kid but it has since been lost. The Strobl Eisenburg Trio: Frank Strobl, bass Karl Strobl, Trumpet John Seiser, accordion (my maternal Grandfather) Joseph Seiser, clarinet Any info would be great! VILLAGE OF UNTERWALDBAUERN (from Frank Teklits) When I think we've identified all of the villages, someone comes up wuth another. Frank writes: I've been using a text "Magyar Helységnév - Azonosító Szótär," that contains hundreds of Hungarian village names, and cross references for Roman, Croatian, German, & Slovakian village names, in my current efforts to digitize my dad's village (Szentpeterfa, Hungary) church records dating from 1681 to 1796. I could not find the village Unterwaldbauern, but the text does include the village Unterwald, which is known as Erdőalja in Hungarian. GÜLLY NAME (from Klaus Gerger) This was a strange name for me and I wondered if it linked to Gilly, which is more common. Klaus writes to a member: I read your mail (in the BB newsletters) on the way to the "land register archive" and decided to look at the Urbersdorf files. In one of the next weeks I will publish the Urbersdorf house list (from 1858) on my site http://members.1012surfnet.at/gerger/Map/HouseLists.htm . I found no matching name among the house owners. But in the list of land owners there I found a Gülly Stefan. It was usual that emigrants with umlauts in their name just removed the diacritical marks (Gröller turned to Groller). A friend of mine, has the name Gülly and he is from Neustift. Neustift had 6 Gülly families in the year 1858. In this time their name was changed from Gilly to Gülly. I have his Gülly family tree back to 1800. So if you can send me more detailed information for your Grandparents (Names, childrens names, birth date, marriage date, whether your grandmother was from Urbersdorf too and her maiden name, I can look in the Güssing parish records for their entries. I suppose the origin of your Gully family was Neustift from where they then moved to othe villages (like Langzeil and so on). MEMBER CHANGES NEW Katharina Bryant, Lawton, OK. CSANITS born in Sopron in 1943, came to U.S.A. in 1964. Also TESZNER, mother's maiden name. born in Sopron in 1915. Thomas A. Carpenter, Chicago, IL . LEOPOLD, SCHUMACHER. Nikitsch (district of Oberpullendorf). To South Bend, IN abt 1900. Gloria Jackson, Chicago, IL. Martin WUKOVITZ and Mary KULOVITZ originally from NEUBERG and settled in Chicago, Illinois Otto Limbeck; Himberg, Austria. LIMBECK, LIMPEK, Parndorf, Gattendorf (Lajtakata). Karl (Carolus), Josef (Josefus) Ferdinand, born in Gattendorf in the mid 1800's emigrated to America. Three other brothers died in Burgenland. Parents of the six brothers were Georg LIMPECK und Maria KERNINGER. Looking for US descendants of the three immigrants. Gil McGlynn, Philadelphia, PA. Researching family of Johann Gottfreid CASSAR, christened June 26, 1789, Kaisersteinbruch, (Grossgemeinde Bruckneudorf, district of Neusiedl) Burgenland. His parents were Michael KASSAR (born about 1760) and Theresa BRUNSCH (born about 1765); married about 1787. Johann Gottfreid Cassar moved to, married in (August 27, 1820), and died (October 24,1843) in Frankfurt am Main, Germany. Marc Resch; Hoboken, NJ My grandfather is from Stegersbach and his name is Alouis RESCH. To Ellis Island in 1933. Suzanne Richmond, Hillingdon, Greater London, England. STREUSLER, Sopron & Wiener Neustadt. Settled in London. Pat Screpetis, Pineville, LA;. Surnames: DAMWEBER, (Damweber, Danweber, Domweber, Donweber, Dunweber), BUKMITSZ, LANG. Wallendorf, Deutsch Schutzen and Raabfidish (Rabafüzes, Hungary), Eisenberg. Names and places of birth from 1907 marriage licenses in Allentown, Lehigh Co., PA courthouse. Virginia Schimmelpfenig; St. Louis, MO. KARNER b 1815 Austria, BURTMEYER/BURKMEYER. Settled in New Orleans, LA 1847. (note from GJB-may be non-Burgenland but would like to know if we have an early port of New Orleans immigrant). Donna Sheraden; Chesnee SC. WENZEL, SIMON. Unterschützen, Grafenschachen(?). To Chicago and Hickory Hills, IL. MSc Thomas Stranzl; Rust / Austria. STRANZL. HASELBACHER, LAGLER Stranzl, (Güssing, Kukmirn Area) IVANCSITS, village(?) Alan Varga; Bloomingdale, IL, researching VARGA / VARGO in Dürnbach (Vincjet) and FLEISCHAKER / FLEISCHACKER / FLEISHAKER in Schandorf (Ciemba). Grandparents emigrated to Chicago 1923-1929. CHANGE Carol Hansen Under Surnames, please add the following spelling of (Maierhofer) to my Mayerhofer listing. Under Villages, please add the name Unterwald. William F. Dimovitz - new address Tom Pfeiler - new address John Shinpaugh - new address John C. Seitz - new address. MISCELLANEOUS David Hunter, England, has an interest in the northern Burgenland. Will send him copies of the newsletter. Canadian Going Home Project (added to distribution list) (Jeremy Schmidt) (end of newletter) BURGENLAND BUNCH STAFF (note addition of Klaus Gerger) Coordinator & Editor Newsletter (Gerald J. 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