THE BURGENLAND BUNCH NEWS - No. 89
DEDICATED TO AUSTRIAN-HUNGARIAN BURGENLAND FAMILY HISTORY
(now issued monthly by Gerald Berghold)
October 31, 2000
(all rights reserved)


* It's common courtesy to answer email received from BB members. A thank you
for help is always appreciated. Adding "BB" to the subject line of email
identifies you as a member.


* One of my BB pleasures is meeting members. Recently we had a great visit
with charter BB member Frank Teklits and his wife Mary. Frank also serves as
our Croatian Editor. He showed us the monumental work he is doing in listing
all of the Szt. Peterfa baptism and wedding records photographed by member
John Lavendoski. Frank and I last met 44 years ago as students at Lehigh
University.

Note to recipients. If you don't want to receive these Burgenland Bunch
newsletters, use Membership Forms to change your status. We can't help with
non-Burgenland family history. Comments and articles are appreciated. Add
your full name to email. Our staff and web site addresses are listed at the
end of newsletter section "B". Introductions, notes and articles without a
by-line are written by the editor. This first section of the 3 section
newsletter contains the articles: New Members-Recipients of Junk Mail-Please
Read, Burgenland Flag, St. Nicholas (Szt. Miklos) Village Website,
Austrian/German Military Research, Unexpected Finds in Hungarian County
Records and many URL Changes.

!!! WE NOW HAVE 585 READERS !!!


NEW MEMBERS - RECIPIENTS OF JUNK MAIL - PLEASE READ

We hear from members who are new to the computer as well as to the Internet.
Some don't understand why they receive junk email. They often feel it comes
from us. Well, it doesn't and we don't give your email address to anyone
else. We do list it in our membership lists so other BB members can contact
you. Your address then becomes available to anyone scanning our homepage.
Some people surf websites and internet lists looking for email addresses.
They then compile large lists which they use to forward their particular Spam
or junk mail. Just like surface mail. There is nothing we can do about that.
We do use Roots-L as a protected newsletter distribution service. They also
treat addresses as confidential and use them only to distribute newsletters.
Our Invitation and Welcome Letters state the following:

* "Our members' listings may not be used for commercial purposes."

* "You may also wish to list your family names and questions on the
WorldGenWeb Burgenland Query Board... This, in addition to the Burgenland
Bunch Homepage will give you world wide exposure to Burgenland genealogy. We
must caution you that listing with us will make your email address available
to the world at large and may result in an increase in junk email as well as
genealogical contacts. We have no control over the origin of such mail and
suggest a judicious use of the delete button if this becomes a problem.
Mention the BB or Burgenland Bunch in the subject heading of all email to
members in order to identify yourself."

Review your mail before opening it, if you don't know the sender, feel the
subject is suspicious, or is from an unwelcome stranger and doesn't contain
the magic initials "BB", hit the delete button and consign it to electronic
limbo. Privacy is fine in its place but when interfacing with others, we must
manage it. Learn to use your delete button or email address blocking system.

I recently read the following complaint on the WGW Burgenland Query Board.
Burgenland editor Albert Schuch provided the proper answer.

<< Burgenland Province Austria Queries. A new message, "Strange messages,"
was posted by Lynn McNamara on Fri,13 Oct 2000 Surname: Schuch. The message
reads as follows: -------------------------I received an
e-mail referencing Burgenland today. When I opened the link, it was a
photograph of a young man and woman, and a pitiful message about misdirected
love. I received another e-mail last week at work (I don't remember giving my
e-mail address at work to anyone at this web-site, but maybe I did), from
someone in Europe, soliciting money from me. If this site is going to be a
floodgate of unsolicited e-mails, asking for money and telling me their sad
stories about their boyfriends/girlfriends, I guess I'll drop out. I'd hoped
that this was a genuine genealogy website. >>

<< Burgenland Province Austria Queries. A new message, "strange messages,"
was posted by Albert Schuch on Fri,13 Oct 2000 It is a response to "Strange
messages," posted by Lynn McNamara on Fri, 13 Oct 2000Surname: The message
reads as follows: -------------------------This site IS
a genuine genealogy website. However, like every site on the net, it is
vulnerable to being misused by spammers. I also received the strange messages
you mentioned. I ignored them, and I blocked the sender in my email system.
This is the only way to handle it. >>


BURGENLAND FLAG (From Darlene Muellner)

Just wanted you to know that in answer to our question where to purchase a
Burgenland flag, we were able to buy one from Erste Österreichishche
Fahnenfabrik in Wien. Very good to deal with and the flag cost $55 including
international money order charges. Thank you to all who provided assistance.
Kurt Muellner


ST. NICHOLAS WEB SITE

Anna Kresh, our internet editor, does a superb job of keeping our internet
URL (uniform resource locator) list up to date. This list, available by
hyperlink (click on blue leteers) from the BB Homepage, will take you to
other Burgenland research related web sites. If you haven't checked some of
them, you're missing an important research tool. As time permits, I review
some of them. Sometimes a new site will appear and I'll be contacted. Such
was the case with the newly created St. Nicholas bei Güssing site.
http://www.st-nikolaus.com/

St. Nicholas (Hungarian Szt. Miklos), now an appendage of Güssing is a small
village in southern Burgenland. It was created by Croatian refugees in the
early 1500's, and had its own parish until about 1850, when it merged with
Güssing. You'll find a number of St. Nicholas articles in our archives.

The website is hosted and maintained by Silvia Nikles Berner and Günter
Nikles from Güssing. They feature history of the area, pictures, a guest
book, immigrant data, links to other sites (including ours), local news and
data concerning the community and it's business. You'll find the pictures of
exceptional value. They also feature some of our earlier BB material.


AUSTRIAN/GERMAN MILITARY RESEARCH (From: Phyllis Sauerzopf)

Except to comment on the Burgenland military units, we've not looked into
what may be available from military records. Member Phyllis Sauerzopf has
been interested in this area and she sends the following:

O I found this new site on Cyndi's List (down below). It was introduced on
Sept. 25, 2000. When you get there, if you scroll down on the page you will
come to Glenn's new site on the Austro-Hungarian Army 1914-1918. After clicking
on it, you will find the title to be Austro-Hungarian Land Forces. The url is
www.glenn.jewison.btinternet.co.uk/index.htm. This site was updated on Oct. 1,
2000. [Editor: link above not valid now; current site is:
http://www.austro-hungarian-army.co.uk/] I thought it might be a good addition
to the BBunch Internet Links. It is not listed with Austria on Cyndi's List.

o I am so excited!! On the site of the "German War Dead" you just put in the
newsletter, I clicked on different words (all in German) and found the "name
search". I found Traupmann's from Burgenland!! The one listed below was born
in Moschendorf! My gr-grandfathers brother John disappeared from the
Szent-Peterfa records. His birth in Kolom was there in 1856, he was a witness
for my gr-grandfathers wedding in Kulm in 1884 and that's it. It's possible now
that he moved to Moschedorf and this John could be a descendent of his!! This is
close to Kulm!! I will proceed to search the Moschendorf LDS microfilms!! Also I
found a Johann Traubmann from Heiligenbrunn. Now, if I could only read German!!
In some of these listings, there is a word to click on "hier" which gives more
information. I just can't read it. I'll try one of the translation web sites.
Thank you and thanks to the member who introduced this website!!!!!

o Hurry and look at this!! Bergholds, many Bergholds!!!! When you get to page
go to the very top on the right hand side. There is a rectangular box. Click
on the top line of small words in this colored box. When you get there,
scroll down to the online search. Type in the name Berghold and Bingo! Click
on each name to get the information. I found that I can't go back to this
page with all of the names on. I have to keep going to that little
rectangular box and search again to get the page again with all of their
names. This is a "gold mine"! www.volksbund.de/homepage.htm [link not valid now]

(ED. Note: I checked this site and found references to 18 Bergholds who
served in the German army in WW-I & WW-II and were casualties. A fair number
for an uncommon name (less than 400 Bergholds in Europe). Their dates of
birth and death are given as well as where they are buried. Birthplaces are
available for some. The WW-I dead are all from Germany (Austria had its own
army) but the WW-II data includes both. I went on to check other family names
and found references to all. If nothing else, these records can pinpoint
areas where family names may be found. The site is written in German.)


UNEXPECTED FINDS IN HUNGARIAN COUNTY RECORDS (suggested by Fritz Königshofer)

(ED. Note: If you've sifted through the records of Vas, Sopron and Moson
Megye, Hungary (Burgenland pre 1921), you've probably extracted every
reference to your family names. You may feel you've exhausted family sources,
at least as far as pre-1921 Hungarian church and civil records are concerned.
Austrian editor Fritz Königshofer, for reasons of his own, was led to the
records of Zala Megye (next Hungarian county, south-east of Vas). He found
some new family records. Fritz is an experienced researcher. He casts his net
far and wide, but also maintains lists of family names from his BB contacts
and advises them when he finds a possible link. A number of us have benefited
from his help. Some day I must tell you of the epic search Fritz has
conducted for the family of my grandmother Langasch. Another instance of how
it can be beneficial to belong to the BB. Have you helped anyone lately?)

Fritz writes:

O Subject: Unexpected Ebenspanger find in the civil records of Nagy Kanizsa,
Zala county

Dear fellow BB member Regina,
During my ongoing search through the newly available microfilms of the civil
records (1895-1906) of Nagy Kanizsa in Zala county, I by chance hit upon an
Ebenspanger death record that could possibly be of interest for you.

On November 3, 1902, at Nagy Kanizsa, Kossuth tér [square] 18. Death of
Henrik Ebenspanger, 76 years of age, kereskedö [shopkeeper], of Jewish
religion, born in Szalónak [Schlaining], a widower after Maria nee Graf.
Henrik's parents are listed as the late Ebenspanger Lipót [Leopold], a
shopkeeper in Alsó Lendva [then in Vas county, today Lendava in Slovenia],
and Rozalia nee Weisz of Alsó Lendva. The death was reported by Janka [Jean]
Kürschner nee Ebenspanger [possibly a daughter of Henrik?].

O Subject: An unexpected Klucsarics entry in the civil death records of Nagy
Kanizsa, Zala county

Dear fellow BB members,
In searching the newly available films with the civil death records of Nagy
Kanizsa in Zala county, I hit upon a Klucsarics entry which may be of
interest.

Accordingly, on July 2, 1902 at Teleky utca 3 in Nagy Kanizsa, Angella
Klucsarics died at age 22, cseléd [maid], born in Nagy Medves
[Grossmürbisch]. The parents are listed as unknown, i.e., the poor young
woman apparently had no close relatives or acquaintances in town who could
have provided more data on her. Perhaps one of you has come across this
Angela, born around 1880.

O Subject: Unexpected Teklics find in the civil records of Nagy Kanizsa

Hello, fellow BB members. I am currently searching through the civil death
records of Nagy Kanizsa, county Zala (1895-1906). Perhaps one of you might
be interested in the following Teklics find.

On January 28, 1902 at Kölcsey utca 7 in Nagy Kanizsa: death of Lujza
Teklics, roman-catholic, magänzó (woman with her own [financial] means), 65
years of age, born in Szent-Péterfa. Her parents are listed as the late
Antal Teklics, földmives (farmer) in Szent-Péterfa, and Maria nee Knepf of
Szent-Péterfa. The cause of death was senile debility (i.e., age). The
death was reported by Lujza Schoth nee Schmiedh, apparently a postmaster (or
letter carrier).

It is clear from the record that the notary public who wrote it was not
familiar with German names, therefore I assume that Knepf might possibly be
Knopf. It is also of interest that the person making the report apparently
knew the names of Lujza's parents which would not be a given if Lujza Teklics
had no relatives or close acquaintances in this town.


BURGENLAND BUNCH INTERNET LINKS - ADDITIONS, REVISIONS 10/31/00
(from Internet/URL Editor Anna Tanczos Kresh)

WHICH GENEALOGY SOFTWARE SHOULD I BUY?
If you have ever pondered this question, there is now an online source that
may help you decide. The 8/28/00 issue of the Ancestry Daily News contained
an article by Juliana Smith entitled "Comparing Genealogical Software"
http://www.ancestry.com/library/view/news/articles/2248.asp which reported
on The National Genealogical Society's NGS Magazine's "The Genealogical
Software Report Card" http://www.mumford.ab.ca/reportcard/index.htm by Bill
Mumford. This report card lists 14 different programs and compares them in 12
areas: planning tools, data recording, analytical tools, source
documentation, reports, charts, publishing, multimedia, Internet,
portability, additional tools, and convenience items.

AUSTRIAN, AUSTRO-HUNGARIAN INTERNET LINKS
o Hello Vienna, Hello Austria http://www.hello-austria.com - Austria's
International Television Magazine; RealPlayer clip of segments of a
television program on the Emigrants' Museum at Güssing with Dr. Walter
Dujmovits may be downloaded here; click on Recent Shows, then choose Show
32/2000, then choose Emigrants Museum in Güssing; or try Show 32/2000
directly at
http://www.hello-austria.com/shows/00/32/f2.ram [Donna Stockl]

o Weiner Zeitung http://www.wienerzeitung.at/frameless/english.htm -
started in 1703; possibly the oldest surviving daily newspaper in the world;
German and English; features politics, business, culture, general news,
sports [Margaret Kaiser]

o Austria Today http://www.austriatoday.at - English language daily
newspaper; good way to see the news from the Austrian perspective [Klaus
Gerger]

o CZECH-L Mailing List
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~elainetmaddox/index.htm - an
e-mail list for genealogical research in the past and present territories of
the former Austro-Hungarian Empire including the Czech Republic, Bohemia,
Moravia, Silesia and border countries.

o Christtagmorgen
http://www.austro-hungarian-genealogy-translations.com/xmasmorn.html -
Christmas morning scene by artist Ferdinand Georg Waldmüller (1793-1865)
[Felix Game]

o WORLD WAR I GERMAN SOLDIERS' WAR GRAVES - see article by Robert Lipprandt
published in Missing Links genealogy newsletter, Vol. 5, No. 31, 2 August
2000 at RootsWeb E-zines http://www.rootsweb.com/~review/e-zine.html
[Robert Lipprandt]

o Austro-Hungarian Land Forces 1914-1918
http://www.glenn.jewison.btinternet.co.uk/index.htm - organisational
history of the land forces of the Austro-Hungarian monarchy from just prior
to the outbreak of the WWI until the collapse of the monarchy in 1918
[Phyllis Sauerzopf]

o Reasons for Emigration
http://www.austro-hungarian-genealogy-translations.com/whyemigrate.html -
Article on why our ancestors wanted to emigrate by Felix Game [Felix Game]

BURGENLAND INTERNET LINKS
o St. Andrä (am Zicksee) http://www.st-andrae-zicksee.at - homepage of St.
Andrä in Northern Burgenland; includes a list of inhabitants, email-addresses
http://www.st-andrae-zicksee.at/StAD/email.html [Franz Lehner and Albert
Schuch]

o Hello Vienna, Hello Austria http://www.hello-austria.com - (see under
AUSTRIAN, AUSTRO-HUNGARIAN INTERNET LINKS)

o St. Nikolaus bei Güssing http://www.st-nikolaus.com/ - village homepage;
photos of many other Güssing and Jennersdorf district sites [Bill Rudy,
Silvia and Guenter Nikles]

o Sister Cities
http://members.1012surfnet.at/gerger/BB/bvz/bvz05092000artikel.html -
Burgenlaendische Volks Zeitung newspaper article on the
Stegersbach-Northampton connection [Inge Schuch and Klaus Gerger]

o Brandies from Kukmirn http://www.signale.co.at/lagler/ - Fine brandies
from Kukmirn; fine website in German & English [Albert Schuch]

GENEALOGY RESEARCH LINKS (OTHER)
o ProGenealogists Genealogy Tools
http://www.progenealogists.com/gentools.htm Division of Ancestral Quest,
Inc.; numerous genealogy links, including one to calculate a birth date from
a death date and age.

GENEALOGY SOFTWARE LINKS
o LDS - Personal Ancestral File (PAF) 4.0 http://www.familysearch.org -
Windows(r)-based version of one of the most widely-used genealogical
management programs for home computers; multi-language; free and downloadable
from LDS; click on Order/Download Products, then Software Downloads-Free; for
more info see article in BB newsletter No. 87B [Bob Unger]

URL CHANGES (revised links/descriptions)
--- Ancestral Findings http://www.ancestralfindings.com/ - free lookups of
World Family Tree CDs, Ship Passenger Lists, Birth, Census, Death, Land,
Marriage, State, and Military Records. [new address]

--- Genealogy CD Lookups http://seidata.com/~genealogy/cdlist.html - CD ROM
lookups by e-mail; service is provided by volunteers, so please be
considerate; please follow instructions [new address]

o Genealogy Resources http://www.rootsweb.com/~jfuller/internet.html -
Genealogy Resources on the Internet; easy access; click and subscribe to
hundreds of genealogy mailing lists [new address]

--- Family History Library Catalog
http://www.familysearch.org/Search/searchcatalog.asp - (links to
microfilms, etc.), your local Family History Centers, and more; search for
LDS catalog entries by place (locality), surname, author, call number, film
number [improved description]

o Libweb - Library Servers via WWW http://sunsite.berkeley.edu/Libweb/ -
library services on the World Wide Web; for your ancestral country see
Europe http://sunsite.berkeley.edu/Libweb/Europe_main.html [change in
sub-links]

o Names and Meanings - Dictionary of given names, their sources, and
meanings; in German;
site1 http://www.menschenskinder-online.de/baby/name
site2 http://www.vornamen.com
site3 http://www.kindername.de/a-z.htm [original link broken; alternates
found]

o RootsWeb http://www.rootsweb.com/ - premier genealogical service; all
your family names should be listed on Roots Web [link change; RootsWeb no
long accepting monetary contributions]

o Parsons Technology http://www.parsonstech.com/genealogy/index.html -
Family Tree Maker, Family Origins, Archives [address change]

o Translation Team http://www.genealogienetz.de/gene/misc/translation.html
- free translation service via email by Genealogy.net for genealogy-related
text only; limit 40 lines per email; fee charged for fax or mail (postal)
service; available languages include CZEch, DANish, DUTch, ENGlish, FINish,
FREnch, GERman, ITAlian, KORean, NORwegian, POLish, PORtuguese, ROManian,
SPAnish, SWEdish [ Bob Unger - address change - new name - replaces German
Translation link]

o LDS Research Help
http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/RG/frameset_rhelps.asp - LDS
genealogical research aids; click to sort by document type to access Forms,
Letter-writing Guides, Maps, Research Outlines, Resource Guides, Word Lists,
etc. [address changes - replaces former links for LDS German and Latin
Genealogical Word Lists and German Letter-writing Guide]

URLS DROPPED - LINKS BROKEN/CHANGED - INFORM URL EDITOR IF YOU KNOW ALTERNATES
o Hungarian Settlements - brief descriptions and information on the location
of villages in present day Hungary:
Vas County http://testver.sednet.hu/vasm/e_alap.html,
Gyor-Moson-Sopron County http://testver.sednet.hu/gyorm/e_alap.html,
Veszprem County http://testver.sednet.hu/veszpm/e_alap.html [links broken
- these former work arounds are now broken, also]
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

(Newsletter continues as no. 89A)


THE BURGENLAND BUNCH NEWS - No. 89B
DEDICATED TO AUSTRIAN-HUNGARIAN BURGENLAND FAMILY HISTORY
(now issued monthly by Gerald Berghold)
October 31, 2000

This third section of the 3 section newsletter contains the first of a
planned Burgenland Composer Series as well as Seeking Family, and many Member
Changes, including seventeen new members-check their family names for
possible links.


BURGENLAND COMPOSERS SERIES

(ED. Note: In a previous edition of the newsletter we mentioned that many
well-known musicians either lived or were born in the Burgenland, a unique
musical heritage. The possibilities of genealogical links to descendants of
Burgenland emigrants are thus possible. As a result we will be bringing you
this data as a composer series researched and written by Austrian editor
Fritz Königshofer. The series will tend to lean toward genealogical data
concerning the composers and will appear as Fritz finds the time to complete
his research. Look for others in future issues. Please advise us if you find
that you can link to any of these composers.)


NOTES ON THE GENEALOGY OF COMPOSER JOSEPH HAYDN (by Fritz Königshofer)

(Franz) Joseph Haydn, born March 31, 1732 in Rohrau, Lower Austria, ranks as
one of the most important composers of all, the first of the so-called Vienna
classics, sometimes named the "Father of the Symphony," whose innovations and
rich and varied oevre laid the ground for Mozart and Beethoven. From
1761-90, and again since 1795, he directed the orchestra of Prince
Eszterhäzy, first in Eisenstadt, then at the palace of Eszterhäza near
Fertõd, and eventually in Vienna. Successful stays in London in 1791/92 and
1794/95 established his fame. As his greatest achievement, Haydn refined the
construction and interaction of motifs for symphonies and sonatas, a
development which opened these forms to the large themes and structures that
followed. He wrote the old imperial hymn of Austria which later became the
national anthem of Germany ("Deutschlandlied"), and which formed the material
for his masterpiece "Emperor's Quartet." Haydn died on May 31, 1809 in
Vienna.

The material for this article comes in a small part from the book by Karl
Geiringer, "Joseph Haydn: Der schöpferische Werdegang eines Meisters der
Klassik" [The creative career of a master of the classic era], published by
Goldmann, Munich, 1986. Most of the material, however, was drawn from the
two-volume set by Ernst Fritz Schmid, "Joseph Haydn: Ein Buch von Vorfahren
und Heimat des Meisters" [A book about the master's ancestors and his
homeland], published 1934 by Bärenreiter in Kassel. Schmid's detailed
genealogical research appears to be cited in most books on Haydn. One of the
book's chapters deals with the meaning of the name Haydn, its spelling
variations, and the geographical spread of the name. Apparently, names like
Haydn, Hayden, Haiden, Heiden and perhaps also Haider or Heider, refer to the
old German word Heide which means "pagan." However, the word might also
refer to "Heidn" in the meaning of buckwheat ("flour of the pagans").
Another closely connected term is "Heide" in the sense of the commonly used
leas and forests of a community (the "Allmende" or "Hutweide"). Apparently,
the old German term Heide (for pagan) might actually have the origin in
something like "forest inhabitant."

Ancestors of Haydn

The birthplace of Haydn, Rohrau in Lower Austria, lies right at the border of
Burgenland, not far south of the Danube. For much of the 2nd millenium (till
1920), this had been the historic border between Austria and Hungary. It
turns out that Kaspar Haydn, the greatgrandfather of Joseph, had hailed from
Tadten in Burgenland's Lake Corner, Hungarian name Tétény or later
Mosontétény. A number of Burgenland Bunch members have ancestors in Tadten
or environs. They may well be blood-relations of the composer!

Kaspar Haydn moved from Tadten to Hainburg in Lower Austria where he was a
cartwright (carriage builder). He and his wife lost their lives in 1683 when
the Turks took the town on their way to the siege of Vienna, and burned it
down. Their property went to their 23 year old son Thomas Haydn (Joseph
Haydn's grandfather), also a cartwright, who later became a (free) citizen of
Hainburg. Thomas Haydn died in 1701.

Joseph Haydn's father, Mathias Haydn, was born on January 31, 1699 in
Hainburg. There were six brothers altogether, with the oldest 12 years old,
and Mathias only 2, when their father died. Mathias also learned the craft
of a cartwright, became a journeyman in 1717, and traveled as far as
Frankfurt am Main. Eventually, he settled in Rohrau where in 1728 he married
Maria Koller, served as the town judge (corresponding to mayor) from 1741-61,
and was known for playing the harp without the ability to read notes. After
the death of Maria nee Koller in 1754, Mathias Haydn remarried Maria Anna
Seder.

As to the mother's side of Joseph Haydn's ancestry, his grandfather Lorenz
Koller, born in Pachfurth (a border village between Rohrau and Bruck an der
Leitha), was a farmer in Rohrau. He and his family lost all their belongings
when Hungarian rebels raided Rohrau in 1704, and again in 1706, during the
so-called Kurucz uprising. Lorenz became town judge of Rohrau in 1713 and
died in 1718. Joseph Haydn's mother Maria Koller was born on November 10,
1707 in Rohrau. She was only 11 when her father died. She entered the
service of the overlords of Rohrau, the counts Harrach, as a cook.

One can thus conclude that the ancestors of Joseph Haydn were all ethnic
German craftsmen or farmers from the Austro-Hungarian border region, with the
Haydn line itself originating from today's Lake Corner of the Burgenland.
Haydn's parents had achieved a certain local status, which is what perhaps
enabled them to place their gifted child in a boys' choir in Vienna in 1740.
Nevertheless, the young Joseph Haydn received only haphazard formal
instruction in music (which he financed himself by doing whatever paid work
he could obtain), but mostly had to educate himself.

Joseph Haydn and his brothers and sisters

(Franz) Joseph Haydn married Maria nee Keller from Chlumetz in Bohemia.
However, the marriage remained childless. Schmid writes that stories always
abounded about "illegitimate" children of Joseph Haydn (as well as
illegitimate children of Haydn's father), and calls this an area "to be
researched further" (at the time of Schmid's book). Haydn himself is cited
as using his wife's inability to conceive as "justification" for his
extra-marital adventures. In any case, the most persistently rumored natural
son of Joseph Haydn was Alois Anton Nikolaus (also called Antonio) Polzelli,
born April 22, 1783 in Süttör, the site of the Eszterhäza Palace, as son of
Haydn's mistress Aloisia Polzelli and, officially, her husband Anton
Polzelli. The daughters of Antonio apparently were convinced that their real
grandfather was the composer. In the 1870s, one of these daughters, Emilie,
lived in relative poverty in Budapest as the wife of a Mr. Wölföl (or Wölfl,
Wölfel).

Two brothers of Joseph Haydn survived to adulthood. One of them, (Johann)
Michael Haydn, born 1737 in Rohrau, became a well-known composer in his own
right, lived and died (1806) in Salzburg, and married Marie Magdalena nee
Lipp. Only one child sprang from this marriage, but it died as a baby. The
other brother, Johann Haydn, born 1743 in Rohrau, never married (and is not
known to have had any progeny). He was a singer in the Eszterhäzi orchestra,
and died 1805 in Eisenstadt.

Three sisters of Joseph survived to adulthood. The first of these was Anna
Maria Franziska, born 1730 in Rohrau, died 1781 in Fertõszentmiklós (Sopron
county, near Kapuvär). She was first (1750) married in Rohrau to Johann
Vieltzwieser (Filzwieser), a widower, and secondly (1771) in Fertõszentmiklós
to Jakob Traumbauer. The only known further descendents were from daughter
Anna Maria Vieltzwieser, born 1751, who married Johann Michael Wimmer, an
innkeeper in Fertõszentmiklós. One child of that marriage, Josepha Anna
Wimmer, born 1778, married Joseph Apeller, a physician practicing madicine in
Kapuvär. Therefore, any descendents possibly living today after Anna Maria
Franziska Haydn, sister of the composer, might well only be via the line
Joseph Apeller of Kapuvär and his wife Josepha Anna nee Wimmer.

The second sister was Anna Maria Haydn, born 1739 in Rohrau, where she died
in 1802. Anna Maria first married Johann Philipp Fröhlich in 1757, son of
Lorenz and Gertrud Fröhlich of Rohrau, a blacksmith, and secondly married in
1777, Ignaz Raffler, son of Jakob and Maria Raffler, a blacksmith in
Schönabrunn (which was also a border village near Rohrau, in the opposite
direction from Pachfurth). There were numerous descendents from Anna Maria,
probably mostly or all from the first marriage (Fröhlich). These are the
family names and locations from about 1780 onwards which might indicate
possible descendants of Anna Maria nee Haydn:

Beaver Falls (USA): Simek //
Bela Crkva (Weisskirchen in Banat): Simek //
Berlin (Germany): Maax //
Bremen (Germany): Lappenberg, Lohmann //
Cattaro: Simek //
Fischamend (Lower Austria): Fröhlich //
Gerhaus (near Rohrau): Hammer //
Haslau an der Donau: Mosberger //
Höflein (in Lower Austria, near Rohrau, not the one in Burgenland):
Gogoditsch, Müllner, Schoderitz //
Huchling (near Bremen): Trost //
Naarn (Upper Austria): Kleinsasser //
Olsnitz (Murska Sobota, Slovenia): Höcher //
Petronell (near Rohrau): Dietrich //
Pressburg (Bratislava): Höcher //
Reutlingen (Germany): Herrmann //
Rintelen an der Weser (Germany): Sixel //
Rio de Janeiro: Sixel //
Rohrau: Böheim, Fröhlich, Höcher, Mosberger //
Scharndorf (near Rohrau): Müllner //
Süttör: Moser, Schilldorfer, Wisauer //
Széplak and Sopron: Luegmayer //
Trebinje (Hercegovina): Simek //
Vienna: Becher, Buhl, Dobrodinsky, Fröhlich, Gogoditsch, Herndlhofer,
Höcher, Kehrer, Petrina //

The third surviving sister of the composer was Anna Katharina Haydn, born
1741 in Rohrau. She married Christoph Näher, son of Johann Martin and Klara
Näher, rifle maker in Munderkingen an der Donau (near Ulm, Germany).
Christoph Näher had found a job as rifle maker for the Harrach family in
Rohrau. The couple had a son, Leopold Näher, born 1764 in Rohrau, but
nothing seems to be known about his fate.

>From the second marriage of father Mathias Haydn with Maria Anna nee Seder,
no childen survived to adulthood.

Siblings of Joseph Haydn's father Mathias Haydn

Joseph Gregor Haydn, born 1689 in Hainburg (died around 1739), was likely a
cartwright in Ungarisch Altenburg (Magyaróvär, Moson county). First he
married Anna Drobarth from Magyaróvär, and then Theresia Vogt from Hainburg.
There were several offspring from these marriages (Andreas, Joseph, Mathias,
Anna Maria) who might have produced further descendants.

Johann Haydn was born 1696 in Hainburg. He settled in Frankenmarkt, Upper
Austria, where he first married Maria Sunzinger, and secondly Maria Rosa
Sayller. There were several children, all born in Frankenmarkt. Johann
Haydn died in Frankenmarkt in 1751.

Anton Haydn was born 1701 in Hainburg. In 1728 in Petronell, he married
Magdalena, a widow. Anton first operated the Wirtshaus zu den Sieben Brunnen
(Inn to the Seven Springs) in Petronell, and then became a city-guardsman in
Pressburg. Child Michael was born 1729 in Petronell, while children Franz
Xaver (1741) and Maria Anna (1743) were born in Pressburg. According to
Schmid's book, nothing is known about further descendents.

Mathias Haydn also had step-siblings from the second marriage of his mother
with Mathias Seefranz. These lines will be discussed later.

The families of Joseph Haydn's paternal grandfather and greatgrandfather

Grandfather Thomas Haydn was born in about 1657 in Hainburg, where he died in
1701. In 1687 in Hainburg, Thomas married Katharina Blainninger (born 1671,
died 1739). After the death of her husband, Katharina nee Blainninger
married Mathias Seefranz (born in Bruck an der Leitha).

Little appears to be known about the siblings of Thomas. One brother,
Johannes, born 1668, became a Turkish prisoner of war, and nothing was heard
of him anymore. A sister Magdalene, born after 1668, probably married
someone by the name Damm, but nothing was known to Schmid regarding any
descendants.

About greatgrandfather Kaspar Haydn, Schmid only mentions that he was born in
Tadten, and married in Hainburg. His wife was Elisabeth nee Schalck,
daughter of Adam and Margarethe Schalck of Hainburg.

Half-siblings of Mathias Haydn

After the death of Thomas Haydn, his widow Katharina nee Blainninger married
Mathias Seefranz. Mathias had been born in Bruck an der Leitha, as the son
of Adam Seefranz and Maria nee Griessler. While the latter was from Bruck an
der Leitha, Adam Seefranz apparently hailed "from Styria."

According to Schmid, the following is known about the children from the
marriage of Mathias Seefranz with Katharina Haydn nee Blainninger (i.e., the
half-siblings of Mathias Haydn). There was a son Johann Jakob Seefranz, born
1703 in Hainburg whose fate is unknown. Another son, Johann Adam Seefranz,
was born 1708 in Hainburg, married Barbara Hütting in 1738 in Neusiedl am
See, and was a cartwright there. The couple had at least one daughter,
Katharina Seefranz, born 1742 in Neusiedl am See. Johann Adam died there in
the same year.

There was also a daughter of Mathias and Katharina Seefranz, namely Julianna
Rosina Seefranz, born 1711 in Hainburg where she died in 1760. In Hainburg
in 1733, Julianna Rosina married the school rector and choir-regent Johann
Mathias Franck (whose parents were from Ketzelsdorf in northeastern Lower
Austria). They had sons who stayed in Hainburg (Seefranz line), a daughter
who married a Neumann, and another daughter who married the school-rector of
Hainburg, Philipp Schimpel. Children of the latter couple lived in Hainburg
and Göding [location of the latter is unclear]. Other names further down the
line of descendents from Julianna Rosina Franck nee Seefranz are Nussdorfer
and Heininger.

Siblings of Joseph Haydn's mother, Anna Maria nee Koller

Mathias Koller, a brother of Haydn's mother, was born 1710 in Rohrau, and
died 1742 in Gerhaus (a village close to Rohrau). He married Maria Katharina
Ailffinger. There were descendents of this couple in Gerhaus.

Theresia Koller, a sister of Haydn's mother, was born 1712 in Rohrau. She
first married Johann Georg Graf, of Rohrau, then Mathias Anton Madl from
Bruck an der Leitha. There were children from both marriages who are
believed to have grown up in Bruck an der Leitha. Schmid's book does not
know the place and death date of Theresia.

Another brother of Haydn's mother was Johann Kaspar Koller, born 1714 in
Rohrau who died 1741 in Pachfurth. In 1741 he married Katharina Franziska
Walpurga Kaintz of Pachfurth. Of their children, Franz Koller, born 1742,
married Christina and was a blacksmith in Göttlesbrunn (near Bruck an der
Leitha); another child, Anna Katharina Koller, born 1746, married Andreas
Köttbaum, an innkeeper in Schiltern (now Jänosikovä near Pressburg in
Slovakia); and yet another child, Maria Theresia Koller, born 1750, first
married Georg Stainer, then Anton Nestmayer, the latter a harness-maker
master in Eisenstadt.

The family of Lorenz Koller, Haydn's maternal grandfather

Lorenz Koller was born 1675 in Rohrau, where he died in 1718. He was the son
of Philipp Koller, and the grandson of Nikolaus Koller, both from Pachfurth.
Lorenz Koller was married with Susanna nee Siebel, see further below.

Lorenz Koller had a sister Maria, born 1673, who married Thomas Winkler, an
innkeeper and village judge in Pachfurth. Another sister of Lorenz, Barbara,
born 1677, married Anton Schäffer, a farmer in Pachfurth.

The family of Susanna Siebel, Haydn's maternal grandmother

The maternal grandmother of the composer was Susanna Siebel, born 1685 in
Rohrau, where she died in 1756 (two years after the death of her daughter
Anna Maria, Haydn's mother). The parents of Susanna Siebel were Martin
Siebel, a master flour miller from Prellenkirchen (near Rohrau to the east)
where he died in 1710, and his first wife Barbara. The name of the second
wife was Maria Schäffer of Pachfurth.

Susanna Koller nee Siebel had a full sister from the first marriage of her
father, with name Apollonia. Nothing seems to be known about her.
Half-siblings of Susanna from the second marriage of Martin Siebel were
Johann Georg Siebel, born 1699 in Prellenkirchen, about whom nothing is
known; and Anna Theresa Siebel, born 1702 in Prellenkirchen, who married
Johann Roschmann. There was at least one son, Johann Roschmann jun., born
1724 in Prellenkirchen.

Conclusion

As can be seen, the direct genealogical links from Joseph Haydn to the
Burgenland are through (i) his greatgrandfather Kaspar who had been born in
Tadten, (ii) one Seefranz branch who moved to Neusiedl am See, and (iii) the
Stainer and Nestmayer line in Eisenstadt. However, numerous other branches
lived in nearby areas of Lower Austria and Hungary (today's Gyõr-Moson-Sopron
county).

In the genealogy of Haydn one cannot fail but note how uneven the descendents
of a family can be distributed. Many genealogical researchers have similar
experiences with the (forward) trees of their families. In Haydn's case, it
looks as if his ancestry culminated in producing him, the genius, and his
also highly talented brother Michael, while the "family effort" almost ended
there, were it not for the numerous and broad assembly of descendants from
just one sister, Anna Maria.

The next article in this series will be about the genealogy of Ferencz
(Franz) Liszt who was born 1811 in Raiding, Burgenland.


SEEKING JEWISH FAMILY

From Hans Gumprecht

Before 1938, Herr Adolf Reiss emigrated to California with his family from
Edelstal, Burgenland. He has since died but I know he had two sons. I don't
know their names. He also had a brother, Dr. Friedrich Reiss, who lived in
New York many years. He was doctor and a professor at Columbia University. He
has also died. If possible I would like to hear from any descendants. I'm a
Burgenländer and lived four years in Switzerland. I am writing a history of
Edelstal. Heartfelt thanks and friendly greetings!


MEMBER CHANGES

NEW
Linda Baer; Lincoln University, PA. REITBAUER, EMRY
(EMERY), PUMMER. All settled in and around Allentown, PA early 1900's.

Earl Barret; Sherman Oaks, CA. YURASITS (JURASITS);
Szt. Peterfa, Hungary. Grandfather immigrated to America sometime around
1900, name here was Yurasits although probably Jurasits in Hungary. Settled
in Canton, Ohio but might also have been in Allentown, PA.

Edward Drimmel; Toronto, ON, Canada. DRIMMEL. Minihof, Sooss, Lower Austria.

Rose Fairchok; North Huntingdon, PA. JOST(YOST),
Raabfidisch. Settled in Pittsburgh, PA

Jeffrey Gatscher; Nashville, TN. GATSCHER.
Grafenschachen. US Immigration City: Detroit, MI (Metropolitan Area)

Elaine Grace; Hobe Sound, FL. ELEANORA FISCHER, (2-8-1883), Tobaj, settled in
Cincinnati, Ohio 1902 and FRANK LEITNER, (10-1-1875), Deutsch Tschantschendorf,
settled in Cincinnati 1903. Names of Frank's family are JANI, ROSNER and HORVATH.

Dawn Lavan; Ocala, FL. GUTTMAN, PILLER, FIXL. Burg. Settled in Chicago, IL.

Emma Murray; Fair Lawn, NJ. JAUTZ or YAUTZ; Heiligenkreuz, lived in Deutsch
Tschantschendorf. Came to NYC, then moved to West New York, Hudson County, NJ.

Silvia Nikles-Berner; Güssing, Burgenland, Austria.
BERNER from St. Nikolaus (Szt. Miklosz) left Burgenland before 1955, settled
in PA; maternal surnames: WINDISCH, GOLLINGER from Tschanigraben ( Sandorhegy
- RC Rönök,Hungary) or Felsörönök, left Burgenland in the 1900s or before,
settled in PA and other states.

Walter Reicher; Eisenstadt, Austria; REICHER, KNOPF, WESSELY (VESSELY, WESZELY,
VESZELY), KRISMANITS (KRISCHMANITS) of Kleinpetersdorf.

Robert Schonfelder; Mission,Tx.;Pinkafeld; THIER,
HOFSTADTER,RABELHOFER,KRONNAUER;Settled in Chicago,Il.

Henry Sinai; Raanana, Israel. SINAI. Eisenstadt; Florisdorf (?); Vienna.

Doug Sommer; Depere, WI. SOMMER, THURINGER, LOOS,
FUHRMAN, KLUBENSTEIN, THURY, ZWINGER. Sankt Andrä, Wallern, Frauenkirchen -
Settled in the Dimock, Parkston, Delmont area of South Dakota.

Béla Turcsänyi; Budapest, Hungary. SCHMELTZER,
REISS, KREBS, LISTMAYER, STOTZ, MACHER. Zurndorf (district of Neusiedl).

Craig Vollman; Mount Pleasant, NC. VOLLMAN (VOLLMANN), BAUER, PERSONHOFER.
Rudersdorf and Furstenfeld, Styria. Settled in Lehigh Valley.

Jana Wachsler-Felder; Rochester, NY; WACHSLER; Austria, Yugoslavia, Hungary.
Decendants in Boston, Israel, New York, Texas and other states.

Fr. Thomas A. Zotter; Albuquerque, New Mexico; Researching: ZOTTER, LANG,
WINDISCH; Welten/Sankt Martin an der Raab; emigrated to Pittsburgh, Pa. (Northside).

CHANGE

E-mail address changes
Bob Geshel

Edward Drimmel)
Minihoff-Liebau is not the Minihof that I am researching.
(turns out to be Kroatisch Minihof in the district of Oberpullendorf).

REINSTATE

John Lostys; Elmhurst, NY. GIBISER, PINTER, Heiligenkreuz.

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