THE BURGENLAND BUNCH NEWS - No. 148
DEDICATED TO AUSTRIAN-HUNGARIAN BURGENLAND FAMILY HISTORY
(Our 11th Year - Issued monthly as email by G. J. Berghold)
Feb. 28, 2006
(c) 2006 G. J. Berghold - all rights reserved)

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This first section of our 2-section newsletter concerns:
1. Changes Affecting My Status As BB Editor & Coordinator
2. Improvements To The BB Homepage & Procedures
3. The Best From Ten Years Of BB Newsletters
4. Albert Schuch Resigns From BB Staff
5. Vienna Mozart Orchestra To Tour North America


1. CHANGES AFFECTING MY STATUS AS BB EDITOR & COORDINATOR

My health has deteriorated. A recent body scan shows that cancer has spread
to my hip and pelvic area. Doctors give me one or two years more if the cancer
cells don't suddenly move to other regions. My chemo treatments now involve a
fairly new drug that protects bone from the invasion of cancer cells. It is
time to put my house in order. I want the BB to continue with or without my
guidance, so I have asked the BB staff to discuss this among themselves and
attempt a solution.

Short term changes to the BB may become necessary, such as freezing the Homepage
and/or membership for a period or suspending the newsletter for awhile or
changing the format. Main concerns must be the survival of the BB. I will
continue to head the BB, initiate memberships and changes, edit the newsletter and
respond to queries as long as I can, even in a supportive role if that comes
about, but the time for those options may be shortened suddenly and irrevocably.
I am thus advising you of the possibilities of sudden changes in the availability
of the BB.


2. IMPROVEMENTS TO THE BB HOMEPAGE & PROCEDURES

Hannes Graf, Tom Steichen, Anna Kresh and myself have revised the Homepage.
We have moved the Invitation Letter to a web page, prioritized and alphabetized
the Index, added new items and reworded titles. Hannes and Tom have designed
a new membership and change form that could eventually make the updating of
our membership lists virtually automatic. Most importantly, Hannes and Tom have
adjusted email addresses on the membership list to preclude their being
harvested by other than the most sophisticated methods. That change will be
transparent to the membership except for a slightly different graphical "@" sign.
This change will also appear eventually on all lists containing addresses. Our
membership then will no longer be prone to Spam based on harvested addresses.
These are most important changes, look for them.

At the same time, we have moved the BB Homepage to another ISP. This will
make future changes easier and provide assured future back-up capability. To
this end, Hannes and Tom have been added to BB Staff as associate Homepage
editors along with Hap Anderson. Hap's ISP Homepage may be in operation and frozen
in the old format for some duplicate period. Still available from the old URL,
it can be closed with the new site in operation. We thank Hap profusely for
initiating the BB Homepage and maintaining it at his ISP since the inception of
the BB. We are also providing a new BB URL with the domain name
http://www.the-burgenland-bunch.org/

Please change your bookmarks. These changes go into effect March 1. We will
also maintain the current membership and change procedures for an indefinite
period.


3. THE BEST FROM TEN YEARS OF BB NEWLETTERS

As I was my purging my BB files recently, I came across an article in a
folder called "Favorite Articles." Like many good intentions, this one never got
off the ground. There was just one article in the file. That gave me the idea
that BB members might again enjoy reading archived articles. One can scan our
newsletter index and bring up old newsletters, but not many do that. As a
result newer members have missed some of our best articles. By the best, I don't
necessarily mean the most helpful or the most important. I mean articles that
are just fun to read while imparting Burgenland immigrant flavor. Do you have a
favorite? Let me know, I'll reprint it as part of this planned series.

(ED. Note: The following was suggested by a gift that I received from
Viennese friends, Albert and Inge Schuch of Vienna, on the occasion of my 70th
birthday. It is reprinted from BB News No. 88B.)


SACHERTORTE VS IMPERIALTORTE VS STRUDEL

Having recently returned from France, I can tell you that I ate a lot of
pastry. It was all tasty but not on a par with Austrian pastry. I felt the same
way about Italian pastry a few years ago. My wife doesn't agree, she feels
Italian is still the best (something called "tiramisu"). So it goes, we all have
our preferences.

During the days of the Empire if you were a craftsman, a sure way to success
was to attract the Emperor's attention with a superior product. If he
expressed satisfaction with it, the entire aristocracy would follow suit. A little
like the way corporations go after the sports champions, getting them to endorse
their products. The English and other remaining monarchies also still have
their "purveyors to the crown". Thus we have "Kaiser this" and "Kaiser that", in
case you wondered.

In 1832, so one story goes, a Viennese master sugar baker (a pastry chef /
Konditor, as opposed to a bread baker / Bäcker) called Franz Sacher invented a
cake to attract the attention of Prinz Klemens von Metternich. It was a round
chocolate sponge cake filled or layered with apricot jam and covered with a firm
glaze. Eating a piece is a must experience for all of those visiting Vienna
for the first time. It's a tradition. Had Metternich been lucky, he'd be
memorialized by the name "Metternichtorte", this name never caught on, but
"Sachertorte" did. The Sacher family went on to operate Sacher's Hotel in Vienna,
now priced out of existence except for contracting plumbers, prince-bishops, US
Congressmen or those on Fortune 500 expense accounts. Walter Cronkite stays there
when he hosts the New Year Gala. Nonetheless, one can eat a piece of Sachertorte
in the hotel tearoom with a cup of coffee (mit schlag) without mortgaging the
farm (although you may have to go without dinner in order to afford it, you
won't lose out calorie-wise). I find it to be like any good chocolate cake, the
Betty Crocker mix used by my wife makes a cake just as good but it has no
historical association. I like apricot jam used between layers but the wife tells
me I don't need all that extra sugar. My grandmother always used jam between
her layer cakes, it added something and kept them moist. My wife doesn't like
to hear tales about how my mother or grandmother cooked.

The Emperor Franz Josef enjoyed pastry as much as I do. It's said he ate
Danish pastry "Plundergebäck" every morning and "Kugelhupf" every day, supplied,
some say, by his mistress, the actress Katharina Schratt. Some also say she was
just a platonic friend whose company and conversation he enjoyed; she kept him
apprised of the local gossip. Either way, he visited her every morning and they
shared some pastry and coffee. He may even have had a bread roll named after
him, the little rolls called "Kaisersemmeln," which readily break into 5 or 6
sections without crumbs; the accepted Viennese bread for a dinner party.

In 1873, Emperor Franz Josef was to visit the first royal palace hotel to be
built on the Ringstrasse. It was to bear the name "k. u. k. Hof-Hotel Imperial".
Its first visitors were to be guests of the Emperor. A "new" torte was in
order and all of the best cooks of the monarchy assembled to perform their
magic, conjuring up magnificent cakes fit for a king in a fairy tale. A pot and pan
scrubber by the name of Xaver Loibner longed to produce his own specialty but
he was restricted to the pots and pans. It is said that during the night,
unable to sleep, he went to the kitchen and created his masterpiece: a chocolate
torte layered with jam, encased in almond paste (marzipan), covered with glazed
chocolate bearing the imperial eagle in chocolate.

The next day the Emperor passed along rows of cakes made just for this occasion.
He spotted the Habsburg crest, stopped in front of Loibner's creation and
pointed to it. He ate a piece and supposedly said "das war sehr gute" (that
was very good). Loibner's fortune was made. From then on, the "Imperial Torte, as
the Emperor is said to have called it, was reserved for him.

Now, in his memory, it is being baked again at the same Hotel Imperial (another
hotel for plumbing contractors and those with money) and can be mailed all
over the world. My good friends Albert and Inge Schuch treated me like the
Emperor and sent me one for my birthday. Like the Emperor, I can only say "es
war sehr gute" (and better than the Sachertorte!). It arrived in a wooden
presentation box with red ribbon and the Imperial Seal. A gift to be treasured
and remembered. Fit for a king.

When we first went to Austria in 1974, we spent a few days in Vienna. One
evening, our children were not interested in going to Grinzing to watch us drink
wine, so we left them in the hotel with money and instructions to eat in the
dining room of the Hotel deFrance. They slipped out to the Ringstrasse instead,
went to a nearby "würstel" stand owner who called himself "Der Kleiner
Sacher" and bought sausages and bread, which they took back to their room to eat.
They acted like true descendants of the Burgenland, to enjoy a wurst snack over
formal Viennese cooking. On a later trip, I passed up a piece of Sachertorte in
favor of apfel strudel. I must now consider whether I will accept Imperial
Torte over strudel. Maybe a piece of each! Although our Burgenland ancestors
probably never tasted either torte, they made it possible for me and you to enjoy
what was once reserved only for the Emperor.


4. ALBERT SCHUCH RESIGNS FROM BB STAFF

Burgenland Editor, Dr. Albert Schuch of Vienna and Klein Petersdorf,
Burgenland sent the following (edited):

"Hello Gerry, Many thanks for your note. It has indeed been some time since I
last wrote to you. Every so often I thought about doing so and addressing the
issue you raised: the future of my involvement in the BB.

To some extent it is the nature of my work - lessons in the morning as well
as in the evening - which makes it so difficult to find the time for personal
interests. I have also been required to work overtime (about 25%) from the
beginning. On the one hand I don't really like to do this, on the other hand we
will be able to make use of the extra money. Elizabeth and I plan to buy a flat
in the near future.

So while I still do have an interest in the BB, the last years have certainly
proven that I am not able to find the time to contribute as much to its work
as a staff member should. I don't think that my situation will change in the
near future (which I had initially hoped), so it will probably be best to
continue as an ordinary member. ... I would like to continue receiving the BB
newsletter.

It is sad to hear the news about Molly's and your own health. I wish and hope
the best for both of you and trust that your continued work for the BB, apart
from the support of your friends and family, will give you the strength to
cope with whatever may come. Best wishes, Albert"

My reply: Albert, thank you for a prompt and complete answer to my questions.
I will remove your name from the BB staff listings and continue to forward
the newsletters. You have my thanks and I'm sure the thanks of the BB staff and
membership for your excellent past contributions to Burgenland family history.
In the event you should ever find the time and interest to again join the BB
staff, you will find a ready welcome. Molly and I both wish you and Elizabeth
the best and hope your purchase of a flat is successful. Warm regards, Gerry &
Molly

(ED Note: Albert was among the first BB staff members. He joined the BB while
attending the University of Vienna. At that time, he provided the BB with
many English language translations of Burgenland material among which are
"Albert's Burgenland Village Data", a compilation of ethnic village names and
record sources; Village Extracts from the 1930's work of Father Gratian Lesser,
thumbnail sketches of village histories through the ages and a host of articles,
replies to queries, etc. All of these are now part of the BB Homepage or
Archives. Later he was instrumental in providing the BB with much historical
source documentation of Burgenland family history. He is the author of various
articles concerning the BB which have appeared in Austrian publications. He is a
prolific author of other articles and wrote a definitive history of Burgenland
industry. His assistance with the Teklits' translation of the History of
Croatians in the Burgenland (serialized in the BB newsletters) was instrumental in
leading to the success of that endeavor. His ability to find Burgenland material
in Austrian libraries and archives is unsurpassed. He personally met with many
BB visitors to Austria. In 2001, he helped make my visit to Austria, to
receive a Burgenland medal, one of the high points of my life. After being awarded
his doctorate, Albert worked as a freelance journalist. He later joined the
staff of a Viennese High School, where he is presently employed. His expertise
and cooperative, engaging manner will be sorely missed. He became not only a BB
editor but a personal friend to many. His position as Burgenland Editor will
be filled by Burgenland Associate Editor Klaus Gerger.)


5. VIENNA MOZART ORCHESTRA TO TOUR NORTH AMERICA (courtesy Margaret Kaiser)

(ED. Note: Asked about my favorite composer, I would mention Haydn, that most
famous musical Burgenländer. Read Fritz Königshofer's article concerning his
genealogy in our newsletter archives. In secret; however, I really love
Mozart, the man and his music. I believe we have CD's or tapes of everything he ever
wrote.)

Margaret sent us the following: Vienna Mozart Orchestra tours North America,
March 17 thru 29, 2006, in celebration of Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart's 250th
Birthday.The world's best Mozart Orchestra direct from Vienna, performs in
authentic historical costumes, complete with wigs and lace ruffles.

USA: Atlanta, Boston, Nashville, New Brunswick, NJ, New York, Philadelphia &
Reading, PA
Canada: Hamilton, Kitchener, Montreal, Ottawa & Toronto

For Information: 1-800-545-7807 & www.salutetovienna.com

Newsletter continues as number 148A.


THE BURGENLAND BUNCH NEWS - No. 148A
DEDICATED TO AUSTRIAN-HUNGARIAN BURGENLAND FAMILY HISTORY
(Our 11th Year- Issued monthly as email by G. J. Berghold)
February 28, 2006
(c) 2006 G. J. Berghold - all rights reserved)

~VISIT THE NEW REVISED & RESTRUCTURED BB HOMEPAGE-ALL 545 PAGES!~

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This second section of our 2-section newsletter concerns:

1. More On Illegitimacy & BB Genealogy
2. More Help With That First Burgenland Visit
3. Burgenland Honored & Remembered Website
4. BB Midwest Picnic Scheduled
5. More On Foreign Money Transfers
6. Debrecen Sausage

*This Edition As Well As Previous BB Newsletters Are Available From Our BB
Archives Web Page*


1. MORE ON ILLEGITIMACY & GENEALOGY (from Bob Unger)

BB newsletter 147A concerned the family tree when there are illegitimate
children involved. I had such a problem searching my family tree. I couldn't
find the village or country of my Grandmother's birth. I knew that my Grandmother's
first child was illegitimate; however, I could not find a birth record for
that child. Ultimately I found her birthplace by getting a copy of her marriage
license application. Using that birthplace, I easily found the microfilm at
the LDS Family History Center, which proved her birth. But, that record
contains no information about my Grandmother's place of birth. Then via the BB I
learned that at times the Priest writes notes in the margins of the record
book. Unfortunately the LDS records for Burgenland are the Austrian/Hungarian
government records - obtained when all churches were required to copy their
records and send them to Budapest. Often those copied records did not include
notes written in the margins. If you find yourself at what appears to be a dead
end in your search, try looking at the original church records. In my case,
the note written by the Priest led me to the village where my Grandmother was
born - opening many branches to my family tree. I hope this bit of info is
helpful.


2. MORE HELP WITH THAT FIRST BURGENLAND VISIT (Bob Strauch et al)

Cheryl Gillmer writes to Bob Strauch: I corresponded with you last year
about my family (Jacksits and Bezenhofer) from the Burgenland area. We are
planning a trip to Austria this summer and I have some questions. Do you recommend
booking a hotel ahead of time? We have three villages to visit and don't
know how long we will be at each. We also want to see all of Austria. Is it easy
to find a place to stay, maybe just book Vienna on our first and last few
days and do the rest on the fly?

Reply: This is Gerry Berghold, editor BB newsletter. Bob Strauch asked me to
help with your question.

Except for large cities and important tourist areas (Vienna, Salzburg,
Innsbruck) in season, it is not necessary to book a hotel. Use a local Gasthaus like
you'd use an American motel, but check in early. Make arrangements Sunday for
a Monday stay when many are closed (Ruhetag).

I have done exactly what you are planning; however it required numerous
trips. Two weeks would be a minimum to see Vienna, Salzburg, Innsbruck and maybe
Graz (you say all of Austria) as well as your family villages in Burgenland. You
would still be missing much of Austria. Let me suggest a workable, but busy
two-week itinerary assuming you are renting an automobile. Don't try it any
other way.

Fly to Vienna (Schwechat airport) - rent a car in advance and pick it up there,
Herz is fine. You'll be jet lagged and confused by traffic, foreign signs and
language. Leave Vienna until last. Drive south to Eisenstadt (two hours) - stay
at the Hotel Burgenland - make advance reservations (use the internet address
at the end of this email for hotel addresses). Stay two nights - you can see
Eisenstadt (the capital) on foot in one relaxing day and leave the car in the
garage. Day 1, see the Esterhazy palace, the Landesmuseum, the Cavalerienberg
church with Haydn's tomb and superb stations of the cross. Day 2 - day trip (drive)
to Rust and Morbisch on the Neusiedler See. Day 3 leave for Güssing area via
Rts 50 and 57 (your villages are in southern Burgenland, districts of Güssing
and Jennersdorf) - about 4 hours with lunch at Bernstein. See the castle (short
walk) and maybe the Bernstein Jade Museum. Continue to Güssing (if enough
time, visit the Castle and Auswanderer Museum) then east to Heiligenbrunn (15
minutes) to Hotel Krutzler (reserve in advance). Use this fine Gasthaus hotel as
your base for three nights. There are others - the Kirchenwirt in Eltendorf and
Raffels in Jennersdorf. Days four and five. visit your villages - all nearby as
well as Güssing and Jennersdorf. Visit cemeteries, churches and the local
Gasthaus - inquire about relatives. Day six, leave southern Burgenland for Graz. Day
seven - leave for Innsbruck - days eight and nine Salzburg - day ten Salzburg to
Melk, day eleven Melk to Vienna. Days 12, 13 Vienna, day 14 flight home.

This is a busy schedule and a lot of driving what with meals and local
sightseeing. Except for Eisenstadt, Heiligenbrunn and Vienna, I wouldn't bother to
make reservations, Use any local Gasthaus, breakfast included, as seen from the
road or village. Must will be enjoyable, clean and comfortable, likewise with
food. If it looks good, it probably is. Eat a lot of schnitzel and goulasch
if you aren't sure of the food. Buy picnic supplies at the local A&O and
bakery, best bread, pastry and cold cuts in the world.

Alternatively, you can spend a week in Vienna and use available hotel touring
facilities for day trips (not always English speaking) and then spend a week
or so in Burgenland. You'd skip Salzburg, Innsbruck and Graz. Driving in Vienna
is as bad as NYC. Take an airport cab to Vienna and go directly to your hotel
(there are many fine hotels - expensive and inexpensive, visit them on the
internet and take your pick. Take local tours (arranged by your concierge). When
ready, rent a car and drive to Eisenstadt as above and then Güssing using that
city (new Sport Hotel - I have no experience with it) or Heiligenbrunn (Hotel
Krutzler - nice family, speaks English - indoor-outdoor pool - great restaurant
- nice breakfast buffet - comfortable rooms - nice little village - old wine
cellars - reasonable rates, my best choice for Americans) as your base for a week
of seeing your villages (a day in each?) and other parts of southern Burgenland.
Important: do see Castle Güssing and Hungarian border villages!

Vienna Airport to Eisenstadt is 2 hours, Eisenstadt to Güssing, another 2 or
3. Güssing to Graz, better part of day. Graz to Innsbruck, at least a full
day - tough mountain passes! Innsbruck to Salzburg, another full day. As you move
your base, you always lose a day driving. It's like the old expression about people
trying to see all of Europe in two weeks - "it's Tuesday, must be France!" I'd
cut back on what you are trying to do unless you are planning a longer trip
than two weeks. Under two weeks, Vienna only and southern Burgenland or you'll
run out of time or burn out. Check the BB archives and read some of the BB trip
reports and see our Austria links for more help. Visit the following:

www. tiscover.com/burgenland
www.austria.info

Good luck and send us a trip report. Contact Austrian Tourist Board in
NYC - search internet for address - they'll send you a lot of material.


3. BURGENLAND HONORED & REMEMBERED WEBSITE (from Margaret Kaiser)

(ED. Note: The impetus to start the BB was the fact that there was no
database of Burgenland immigrants. Available were fragments scattered in a few
publications, mailing lists, ship manifests, etc. Dr. Walter Dujmovits of the BG in
Güssing started a database by listing some in his book "Die Amerika Wanderung
der Burgenländer" and followed it up with articles in the BG news, now in its
50th year. Then came 10 years of BB membership and surname lists, still
ongoing. Recently the BH&R website, as explained below, began a database of
Burgenland immigrant gravesites in NYC, then NJ and is now moving to other areas. In
effect, the BB and the BH&R are complementary. We are capturing Burgenland
immigrant data coming and going as it were. If tracing your immigrant family's
migration, be sure to visit this web site. It will also help the database to grow
if you supply your family data to the BH&R site. It can be reached by hyperlink from
the BB Homepage.)

Margaret writes: Burgenland Immigrants from Kansas, Nebraska, and Pennsylvania
Join NJ and NY Honorees at the Burgenland Honored and Remembered Website (BH&R)

BB members are invited to revisit the BH&R website. The website has been
geographically restructured. More honorees, cemeteries, photos, and remembrances
have been added. This website is developing into a premiere website for
Burgenland immigrant family tree researchers.

The current major initiative underway is identification of deceased immigrants
from the Lehigh Valley, a community with one of the largest concentrations
of Burgenlaenders in America. Bob Strauch (BB Lehigh Valley Contributing
Editor) has been very helpful in starting our project rolling by contributing
many names for our Remembrance List. We strongly encourage our BB members from
Pennsylvania to add their ancestors' names to the List. It's simple. Just go to the
website and e-mail the information. Also, if you can help with the project,
contact Frank Paukowits.

Recent BH&R website changes:

- Restructured website by geographic areas (Frank Klepeis and Frank Paukowits).
- Added photos; view the circa 1950s costumed NJ Burgenlaender Fasching Party celebrants.
- Expanded NJ Remembrance List which now honors more than 375 Burgenländers.
- Added Kansas-Nebraska Honorees (BB member Gary Portsche).
- Original art in the KS-NE section commemorates Burgenlaender migration from
  the Old Country to the New (Gary Portsche).
- Added German language feature.
- Added Castle Harbour Casino, Bronx, NY remembrance article and photos.
- Added Lehigh Valley (LV). Two recent photos and a 1920 photo were submitted
  by Bob Strauch. These form a LV photo triad. Click any of the 3 individual
  photos to enlarge separately. Click the Remembrance List to view LV honorees.
  (BB members Frieda Eberhardt, Donna Hudson, Margaret Kaiser, and Bob Strauch).
- Added other honorees; e.g., BBer Bob Keppel sent his grandfather Frank's
  1911 wedding photo. Select "K" in the Photo Gallery; click to enlarge photo, and
  also find a tribute. Bob transfers professional photographer David Groh's
  Sheybogan and Milwaukee glass plate negatives to a historical website. Bob
  seeks information about Sheboygan's Österreichisch-Ungarischer Franz Josephs
  Unterstützungsverein (Austrian-Hungarian Franz Joseph's Beneficial Society).

Future planned BH&R additions include:
- PA: Coplay/Northampton (LV) Our Lady of Hungary Cemetery (BB Editor Anna Kresh).
- PA: Pittsburgh/McKees Rocks (Sr. Mary Traupmann and Bernadete Sulzer Agreen).
- Add cemetery and other remembrance photos.

Other Website Expansion Goals (possible with BB member input)
- Add other US and Canada geographic locations.
- Expand website with more photos, and add honorees to Remembrance List.
- Encourage descendant participation and collection of Burgenland immigrant history.

Website Designer, Frank Klepeis, noticed that viewers seem to forget to visit
the BH&R Photo Gallery. Photos of deceased Burgenlaenders are encouraged and
may include other family members, Burgenlaender events or Burgenland. Date
and label photos. Anyone have Castle Harbour picnic/dance photos?

BH&R looks forward to your visit and hopes you will add your Burgenland
ancestors to the BH&R website. Direct questions to and visit often at http://www.the-burgenland-bunch.org/BH&R/home.htm.


4. BB MIDWEST PICNIC SCHEDULED

BB member Dean Wagner writes: I recently reserved the pavilion at Trapp Farm
Park in Eagan, Minnesota for the 2006 Midwest Burgenland Bunch Picnic. The
pavilion is ours from 10AM to 4PM on Sunday, August 6, 2006. The cost is $122 and
comes with wood for the fireplace and a picnic kit (including horseshoes,
volleyball, etc.)


5. MORE ON FOREIGN MONEY TRANSFERS

My bank just sent me the following as an insert in my monthly statement.

Fee increases effective April 8, 2006:
Wire transfer: outgoing domestic (foreign will be more) $22.00
Foreign currency exchange fee: 3% of UD dollar amount, debit or credit cards)
Conversion rates may differ from those in effect on day of transfer.


6. DEBRECEN SAUSAGE

In a message dated 1/31/06, a correspodent writes:

Periodically I see references to a town in Hungary called Debrecen. When I
was a child, my Uncle Vincent Petti worked for a sausage factory, and on special
occasions he would bring home debrecener (not sure of spelling), and it tasted
like a much spicier hot dog. Is there any connection between Debrecen and
debrecener?

Reply: Yes, Debrecen is a large city (200K inhabitants) in the eastern part of
Hungary. It has a reputation as gourmet city with many Hungarian dishes
identified "as from Debrecen." Debrecener sausage is one of the food types
identified with this city. I don't know the details but I would guess it started in
the early 1800's, a variant of something simpler, when Hungarian cuisine took a
giant step forward. Dried meat-later made into sausage- was a major food
source for Magyar nomads. Very early (8th century) Magyar warriors tied meat under
their saddles to dry it and tenderize it!) Debrecen sausage is a decided
improvement with the later addition of garlic and paprika. Hungarian butchers in
ethnic areas still compete for the best, making it according to their own
secret formulas. Zecky Butcher in Allentown, PA (4th & Allen Sts was a favorite).
It can still be found in other ethnic neighborhoods. It is a major ingredient
of Debrecen Beef Tokany (a ragout), as well as other recipes calling for
sausage. In European, you can often see someone with a knife, a loaf of bread, a
length of sausage (smoked or dried) and a bottle of wine in hand having
breakfast or lunch while they wait for customers.


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